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Fantastic speeches at Occupy Dame St shows up United Left and the other political parties out there

category dublin | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Sunday November 13, 2011 16:04author by passer by Report this post to the editors

Who needs leaders and talking shops, people are doing it for themselves

After the March there were some fantastic speeches on topics such as Ireland pulling out of the Euro and grassroots Democracy at Occupy Dame St yesterday shows up United Left Alliance and SWP lack of action on very important issues

I was lucky to be passing the central bank yesterday after the March which unfortunately  due to public transport cutbacks I ended up  being too late to participate on. However there were some fantastic speeches on  topics such as Ireland pulling out of the Euro and creating a more direct grassroots democracy at Occupy Dame St yesterday shows up United Left and SWP lack of action on important issues.  I have previously attended a couple of United Left meetings and the speeches I heard yesterday were far more authentic and convincing than any I heard at the ULA talking shops. Perhaps one of the reasons was there was no chair to block important issues such as  the Euro being discussed and causing embarrassment to the party leaders and TD's.

One republican chap called Peadar gave a passionate speech on why Ireland should leave the Euro as soon as possible.  Another speaker made strong points about the democratic travesty of the Irish people being forced to  have a second vote on the Lisbon referendum because our leaders didnt like the result. Long may the Occupy movement  hold its ground at the central  bank and expose the truth that the media and our political parties of the right and left keeps hidden from the Irish people.  People are beginning to hear the truth and that really is a threat to the powers that be. Lets build a counter culture and raise uncomfortable issues such as  leaving the euro, grassroots democracy and breaking the conventions that our leaders  dont want to touch. ODS is doing more to help free our minds than all the political class put together.

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
 1   the quality of the discussion was excellent     passer by    Sun Nov 13, 2011 16:38 
 2   flogging a dead camp     independent    Sun Nov 13, 2011 17:26 
 3   grand, indo...     opus diablos    Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:39 
 4   what is wrong with dreaming of a better world?     real independent    Mon Nov 14, 2011 13:29 
 5   Dreams.     Rational Ecologist.    Mon Nov 14, 2011 14:54 
 6   As a United Left voter I support the Occupy movement     dreamer    Mon Nov 14, 2011 17:12 
 7   We are not indignant     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Tue Nov 15, 2011 17:46 
 8   Gearoid is correct now is the time for action not hot air     action not talk    Tue Nov 15, 2011 20:44 
 9   I am old enough to have seen a lot of socialist parties sell out their principles     pensioner    Tue Nov 15, 2011 21:26 
 10   the signs are there to see for sure     former sticky    Tue Nov 15, 2011 22:19 
 11   Jealous of RBB-smokescreen here     non aligned & dont care    Wed Nov 16, 2011 01:22 
 12   The United Left Alliance TDs silent on the legalisation of Cannabis     genuinely unaligned    Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:55 
 13   Richie Boyd Barrett reminds me of Ho Chi Quinn     ex labour party    Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:32 
 14   non aligned is partly right in his analysis but is missing ODS most important weaknesses, a party     Trotsky reader    Wed Nov 16, 2011 20:53 
 15   Great song I think Billy Bragg sings it     sing out    Wed Nov 16, 2011 21:28 
 16   @Trotsky reader     lefty    Wed Nov 16, 2011 21:54 
 17   @lefty- u having the time of blessed month???     zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..............    Wed Nov 16, 2011 22:46 
 18   A clarification me thinks I have been misunderstood     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Wed Nov 16, 2011 22:53 
 19   lovely structured argument from the apparatchick     lefty    Thu Nov 17, 2011 04:51 
 20   The Socialist Party and the SWP betrayed a Trotskyist programme for the ULA     Elder Trot    Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:59 
 21   The Western Left were Willing Dupes     An Draighneán Donn    Thu Nov 17, 2011 13:21 
 22   Just turning up as an individual     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Thu Nov 17, 2011 13:23 
 23   closed minded with precognition. wow! what a combination     lefty    Thu Nov 17, 2011 16:28 
 24   No necessity for a Trotskyist programme for the ULA     SWP supporter    Thu Nov 17, 2011 17:14 
 25   That reads as ..     opus diablos    Thu Nov 17, 2011 17:53 
 26   cant make any decisions without democratic centralism     onlooker    Thu Nov 17, 2011 18:40 
 27   SWP Supporter?     An Draighneán Donn    Thu Nov 17, 2011 18:57 
 28   Being comfortable and knowing the future     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Fri Nov 18, 2011 03:04 
 29   @swp supporter     lefty    Fri Nov 18, 2011 03:15 
 30   Trotsky wasnt a dicator his insistence on democratic centralism within the party proves this     ULA voter    Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:36 
 31   An Draighnean Donn, the Socialist Party organised no marches or protests against the war in Libya     fair play    Fri Nov 18, 2011 18:02 
 32   condemning Libyan war     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Fri Nov 18, 2011 21:08 
 33   Wsm does not control ods gearoid     Durutti column    Sat Nov 19, 2011 15:59 
 34   Who controls what     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Sat Nov 19, 2011 22:06 
 35   the cultural activities a week ago were top notch     non party political    Sun Nov 20, 2011 17:55 
 36   reduction of the working week to 30 hours and lower the retirement age to 50     redistribute    Sun Nov 20, 2011 18:31 
 37   Ming is the only politican who would get a heros welcome at the camp     merciless    Sun Nov 20, 2011 18:49 
 38   never mind.....     opus diablos    Sun Nov 20, 2011 18:49 
 39   defending parties     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Mon Nov 21, 2011 03:55 
 40   Dail Record     ULA Suporter    Mon Nov 21, 2011 09:47 
 41   IAWM record     JoeMc    Mon Nov 21, 2011 14:39 
 42   ODS and WSM     Andrew    Mon Nov 21, 2011 14:54 
 43   Andrew - wsm outnumbered     come off it    Mon Nov 21, 2011 16:49 
 44   libertarian methods are fairer than trotskyist ones but does consensus really work effectively?     through da chair    Mon Nov 21, 2011 17:01 
 45   Committees     Sean Crudden    Mon Nov 21, 2011 21:18 
 46   on chairing meetings     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Tue Nov 22, 2011 01:05 
 47   free yourselves from the tyranny of political parties     non party    Tue Nov 22, 2011 17:36 
 48   i think Occupy should keep the consensus system     anti partys    Fri Nov 25, 2011 17:51 
 49   the great unwashed     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Sat Nov 26, 2011 00:14 
 50   Are we all fools?     ULA Watch    Sat Nov 26, 2011 02:28 
 51   no worse than any other politicians then?     lefty    Sat Nov 26, 2011 04:39 
 52   don't lose your pith helmet , Gearoid     JoeMc    Sat Nov 26, 2011 14:46 
 53   organising real struggles     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Sat Nov 26, 2011 15:49 
 54   not just Myers     JoeMc    Sat Nov 26, 2011 16:34 
 55   Partying on with People Before Profit     Krusty    Sat Nov 26, 2011 16:50 
 56   hygiene     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Sat Nov 26, 2011 18:27 
 57   the ould Newt then ?     JoeMc    Sun Nov 27, 2011 13:27 
 58   DCTU     Krusty    Sun Nov 27, 2011 16:55 
 59   Not the first time     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Sun Nov 27, 2011 23:37 
 60   misrepresentation and abuse ?     JoeMc    Mon Nov 28, 2011 13:15 
 61   Message coordination     Joe Mc    Mon Nov 28, 2011 14:27 
 62   getting back on track     Gearoid O Loingsigh    Mon Nov 28, 2011 16:30 
 63   the people are bored with the trotskyist program Gearoid     lumpen hippy    Wed Nov 30, 2011 13:03 
 64   Over 2,000     Krusty    Wed Nov 30, 2011 13:36 
 65   dont dare criticise the union bosses     lumpen worker    Wed Nov 30, 2011 21:06 
 66   most Trotskyist sects have serious failings which are directly related to their methods and ideology     free your minds    Wed Nov 30, 2011 21:35 
 67   10 days to save the Euro and no policy at all from the ULA     new age hippy    Wed Nov 30, 2011 22:10 
 68   Occupy the future     JoeMc    Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:44 
 69   Bet on war     pat c    Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:24 
 70   good link to the real communists pat c     occupied    Mon Dec 05, 2011 13:24 
 71   well said again Pat     Paul    Mon Dec 05, 2011 14:32 
 72   Agree     Kevin Dooley    Mon Dec 05, 2011 15:37 
 73   Great Fun.     Nostalgic Hippie.    Mon Dec 05, 2011 16:07 
 74   '..real communists..'     opus diablos    Mon Dec 05, 2011 16:24 
 75   ouch!     KD    Mon Dec 05, 2011 17:22 
 76   fine, KD..     opus diablos    Mon Dec 05, 2011 17:35 
 77   Simplicity Rules.     Occam Himself.    Mon Dec 05, 2011 18:38 
 78   The Razor.     Occcum Himself.    Mon Dec 05, 2011 19:10 
 79   well said Opus     KD    Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:01 
 80   fantastic turn out for the 2nd Spectacle of hope and Defiance     anti corruption    Wed Dec 07, 2011 13:33 
 81   a long time?     KD    Wed Dec 07, 2011 14:09 
 82   What Anne McShane actually said     dame st    Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:32 
 83   Anne is right the SP and SWP control the ULA     democrat    Tue Dec 13, 2011 19:48 
 84   Occuping Dame ST & Showing up The ULA ...     ex labour    Tue Dec 13, 2011 23:26 
 85   occupy heroes, we salute your courage and bravery     Tara protester    Fri Dec 16, 2011 17:18 
 86   there is a lot of public goodwill towards the occupy protestors     pedestrian    Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:42 
 87   Happy Saturnalia 2011 (December 21st 2011) to All Anti-Bailout Activists & Supporters Everywhere     W. Finnerty    Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:37 
 88   Happy Alban Arthuan to Occupy     Fionn Mc    Thu Dec 22, 2011 19:44 
 89   new year greetings to all involved in occupy     occupy supporter    Fri Jan 06, 2012 09:42 


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