Portmarnock lets fuck it up

by angry man., Sat Jul 19, 2003 16:19

what the hell do you mean Penolope fuck up Partmarnock? what's wrong with the world's highest earning sportsmen enjoying a game of golf on their own away from you nagging oh so concerned wimmin?
I suppose we'll see effin antics on the tV.
The leninists don't do this sort of thing.

by (a) Sat Jul 19, 2003 16:28

Anarchists demand a gender-balanced ruling elite!

by Deirdre - Catholic Worker Sat Jul 19, 2003 16:38 dee_clancy at yahoo dot co dot uk

I don't think it's so much that women begrudge these people a relaxing game of golf: the issues are a bit more complex than that. The fact is that despite progress in legislation, there are still ways of marginalising women in Irish society, paying them less for equal or even superior work/productivity (it still happens a lot - I've seen it in workplaces) and maintaining glass ceilings. Some of them are quite subtle but no less damaging for that. One of the less subtle ones is the tendency of big business executives to do important deals in all-male golf clubs. Practice has not caught up with legislation. The Irish psyche has not caught up with it either, as is evidenced by "angry man's" comment. And the poor are equally as marginalised by these activities; the issues go well beyond gender.

by Tim Sat Jul 19, 2003 16:51

Tell me more... Is the state funding purely in relation to the holding of the tournament or is it a normal thing at the club?
Either way it's so wrong, if not illegal for the state to use taxpayer's money support a golf club that excludes one group based on gender and wouldn't admit most of us anyway.

I'm no fan of exclusive golf clubs (but at least I dislike men and women's golf equally) but if they're going to waste good land and money on a boring sport, they have some cheek saying women can't join.

By the way it should be noted that the regular picnics at the golf club at the Old Head of Kinsale do not discriminate on the basis of gender, age, colour, creed or golf handicap - but you might have to jump the wall to attend.

I say good luck to you on your protest.

by angry man Sat Jul 19, 2003 18:40

I'm a catholic worker too, I work and I'm catholic and I'm tired of you want to be revolutionaries "preaching" at the rest of us about the immorality of sports and the government here and the governments there. What's is your solution?? How will your other world make a sweet iota of difference just because sport I suppose will be free and unsponsered and without prize money, and the multi-national-corporations would consider putting the money in hunger, and poverty when you catholic workers and your anarchist mates make i'ts trendy enough.
is that it?

Well you can count me out.
I'm proud to be a _conservative_ catholic worker.

by Jack Sat Jul 19, 2003 21:36

Yeah!

by Mellow Man Sun Jul 20, 2003 02:56

....your shovel if you want to go to work.

by comedyboy. Sun Jul 20, 2003 17:39

glad to see you on indymedia.

I feel there's too much stigma attached to being an irrational arrogant and narrowminded pain in the ass these days, but you do it loud and proud!

good (angry) man yerself.

stand up and be counted!

Is there a support group? When does it meet?

by simon - self Sun Jul 20, 2003 23:15

if a club has a fee based system surely its members can do what they like - let whomever they want join. I dont hear people wanting to kick down the doors of the Irish countrywomens association on grounds that it is a gender biased organisation. All your ascribed groups would have a selection process on who can join. Im sure the little anarcho clique would be up in arms if some rave kids or swp people wanted to 'join'.

the idea of digging up the greens is so infantile. Do you know how much pride greenskeepers take in their hard work - your leather boots are just going to f### their s### up - not crumble the bastion of commodified sport.

I would suggest having an alternative ad campaign - subvertise all those nissan poster and the like. try and educate and affect not piss off the greenkeepers.

by Acid Mon Jul 21, 2003 00:43

I agree with above. Are there any women who actually want to join anyway? How many?

by Seáinín Mon Jul 21, 2003 03:00

Why don't wimmin fuck off and have their own golf clubs? Men need these places where they're free of the idle chatter of women.

O, and stop using this 19th century jargon like 'the working classes'. There is no bosses class or workers class anymore. There is free movement up and down the social ladder for all.

by Groucho Marx Tue Jul 22, 2003 13:25

In any case, I wouldnt dream of becoming a member of any club that would let someone like me join.

by Paddy Tue Jul 22, 2003 13:53

Do you mind me asking penelope why she would want to play golf with a load of fat saps at a "capitalist pig sty" anyway. Leave them there, keeps them away from us..

by maalox - the easily @mused Tue Jul 22, 2003 14:11 maalox at safe-mail dot net

I'm tired of you want to be revolutionaries "preaching" at the rest of us about the immorality of sports

(It didn't make any sense, but it sparked off a funny series of images in my head...)

Keep it up, reactionary trolls- i'm making a compilation. Anonymous, of course.

by iosaf Tue Jul 22, 2003 17:27

item 7.
Women's alliance aggrieved over Irish open venue

Bride Rosney, Director of Communications in RTÉ, discusses the issue with the selected venue for this year's Irish Open
28k - http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/0722/morningireland/morningireland7a.smil

by pat c Tue Jul 22, 2003 18:03

some wandering garden gnomes were to have a attle there. might rough up the greens a little.

by Tiger Spuds Wed Jul 23, 2003 17:15

Portmarnock does not recieve public funding .The Irish Open does in the form of grants from Bord Failte.Portmarnock has to pay big money to get hosting this competition.The amount of jobs and tourists golf brings to this country is massive and is growing every year.The Ryder Cup will be here in 2006 and will bring millions into this country.Now why don,t you go and save your sad assed protests for outside McDonalds and leave something that is beneficial to this country alone.Easy knowing Penelope has never played a game of golf in her life and never will.Its a closed club and has the right to turn away members for any reason.Should cops be let join GR or Discodisco?Didn't think so.

by pat c Wed Jul 23, 2003 18:20

dig it up ,and plant spuds.

by Acid Wed Jul 23, 2003 22:26

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