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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13Ive no doubt the vast majority of protestors will be peaceful and will wave their posters and banners and chant and yell and make a lot of noise giving the police a headache for the day.
That's what they want. Make themselves heard and get in the newspapers and get on TV and make their case for "global justice" and a "better way" and all that nonsense.
Fair play to them.
That's what the democracy is all about.
But if a miniscule minority of extremists arrived in Dublin and lets say used firearms in attacks against Gardai or threw home made bombs or set fire to property or started killing unarmed innocent bystanders for some reason or other, then of course they could expect a violent reaction from the police or the army.
But that will not happen on MayDay.
I predict a sunny day and good weather and peaceful exchange of ideas between the Anticapitalists and proEuropeans.
No need to worry
They all gonna be good Gards, Jim, bravely clubbing people have their size, male and female.
It will be a great day- this time, the Gards will make sure, loike, dat dere is no telly people round.
And numbers will be hidden as usual.
It will be a great day alright, Jim...
Just like May 2002
Hey, Primetime must be biased. I love my police force. Great lads who bait up women and get to keep their jobs.
Perhaps, Jim, what you need is for a Guard to have YOU as a case of "mistaken identity". Then that will be a great day, you'll learn all about the great work the Gards do...
Not sure what a 'pro-European' is Jim as we are part of Europe and so are most of those coming. Maybe you've woken up from some deep sleep you fell into in the 1970's? Anyway things have moved on and we are protesting the racist and corpoarate agenda that is driving the EU rather than its existance.
That clarification aside you seem to have missed the point here. You have some assumptions about under what conditions the guards will be allowed to shoot people. You might be right, you might not. The worrying thing is that they are refusing to reveal this information.
why can't we shoot them, they have batons...how come we don't have any batons...what can you do, what can you do.
Remember, don't talk about the 'behaviour of the Gardai' in May 2002, talk about the 'actions of Garda Rioters in May 2002'
And if they start slobbering on that 'padded up folk' are OBVIOUSLY looking for trouble, point out that padding is not a weapon, and that the Gardai will ALL be armed with batons or guns or both.
Clearly, some people will want to pad up because they've seen what the Gardai did 2 years ago. repeat that point as often as it needs to be made.
I am surprised to see all this talk about will the army or police be allowed shoot, what is the legal basis to put the army on the streets, what is the legal basis to arm the police.
Well why does this grassroots network not open their eyes. The army are on the streets everyday of the week. Cash escorts, prisoner escorts, explosive escorts, its called aid to the civil power and its been in use since the 1970's. The leagl basis is that the army operate in support of the police. shooting rules of engement are stict and even though soldiers are on the streets not one person has been shot since the 1980's when I think it was an IRA shoot out. Also arming the guards and the legal basis for this, come on they are the police, they are all trained in the use or arms, there are armed guards on the streets every day of the week. The legal basis for arming the police lies in the fact that they are the police,
so please come on and focus on the issues and not trying to scare people.
What "shoot out" in the eighties are you refering to? Do you mean the time when the Gardai ambushed a getaway car in a sidestreet at Fairview, on the north side of Dublin, killing all three occupants? I dont think they were "IRA", I thought they were "ODCs" ("ordinary decent criminals")
firslty I was referring to the use of force by the army, the army last used force in the 1980's in an IRA shhot out after a kidnapping.
Secondly there is no such thing as an odc, a criminal is a criminal and the guards did not ambush them they did their jobs, all this cop bashing is a diversion from the truth.
people like info nugget need to realise that siding with criminals and terrorists like the ira is acting like bush, blair, shaorn, arafat etc etc etc
I was not "siding with the criminals". If you look closely enough you will see that I put the "ODC" in quotes, but of course it does not suit your argument to acknowledge that.
And yes, they did ambush them. They could have stopped that car in other ways.
And there are other incidents which the authorities would like forgotten, but I will tell yiz about them at other times,
i.e. when it suits me to tell yiz.
If we encounter resistence from Irish police we will retaliate in kind.
We say to the Irish police "Bring it on!""
Hey "Jezabel", no matter who you are, your anonymous comment on an open newswire is bull. Take your trolling somewhere else.
Ah Bless the cops, yeh they really do a great job! LIES...couldnt catch a cold , oh sorry only on Blue Flu day wat!
Im sick of hearin about decent Irish hardworking people being taunted by these culchie bullies who probably joined the cops to get revenge for there schoolyard days!
As i was strolling through temple bar last Saturday night I came accross a number of male guards who were chatting up Hens on a Hen nite, I had to laugh , Im so glad my taxes are being put to good use!
& as for the Ira being terrorist maybe you people shoud go read a history book, ye make me laugh ..the only terrorists were the RUC & there collusion with Loyalist death squads .Just because the Yanks are in bed with Mr Tony the T Blair ..our culture has been thrown out the window for this Euro crap
Tiocfaidh Ar La
Saoirse Go deo! & Grassroots FAIRPLAY TO Yis!
The Republican movement took on the cops in 1981, they were 3000-4000 strong, cohesive and well-prepared.
They were routed!
Combat 18 took on the cops a few years ago in Landsdown Road.
They received a televised beating!
Moral of the story?
Forget the macho posturing, stick to peaceful protest and make your point that way!