Lets stop being Hurlers on the ditch.

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Thursday June 24, 2004 16:38

by Harry Rea - National Men's Council of Ireland

hrea at eircom dot net

Do you want to talk about Right and Wrong or do something about it!

Noam Chomsky:

The most effective way to restrict democracy is to transfer decision-making from the public arena to unaccountable institutions: kings and princes, priestly castes, military juntas, party dictatorships, or modern corporations.

Have you ever wondered how much of your thinking occurred to you of your own free will and how much was planted there in strategic fashion by people intending to utilise the oldest of oppressive tactics ‘Divide and conquer’.

Let’s stop for a second and think about it!

When was the last time you saw a pro-marriage programme on the telly?

When last did you hear Vincent Brown or Marion Finucane or Joe Duffy or anyone else present a show that you might have disagreed with but where someone raised a cautionary note about the wisdom of promoting single-parent families above traditional married family values or such like?

When did you last see or hear a programme that advised people, particularly young people, on the sure danger ahead through not saving for rainy days? When last did you see a programme on the value of a monogamy, which would categorically protect against the many diverse sexually transmitted diseases?

When did you hear a discussion on how the incidents of Sexually Transmitted Diseases are spiralling out of control since the introduction of readily available contraception? Why do we not debate whether the increase in sex education is actually adding to the rise in promiscuity, adding to teenage births, the demand for abortions that result in more psychological hardship by those who will carry the trauma of their misguided freedom forever? When did you last see a programme that helped you better understand the vital role that the Constitution plays in protecting you and your family and your freedom from the state?

What about suicide? When last did you hear a definitive program about what facts are known as to why so many men are taking their own lives? Did you ever notice that when a suicide does come to the public’s attention that all the papers seem to have the exact same wording? I noticed that and made some calls that eventually led me to the Garda Press Office where I was informed that there are guidelines to control what the media can disclose. I suppose they will wait for the public inquiry. What public inquiry you might ask? Why not try looking up the words “Skibbereen Solicitor's dousing Petrol ” on Google? (Do you remember that man who burnt himself to death in what was believed to be a ‘Family Matter’ last month?) Surely he could not have screamed louder with his actions but it seems he’s old news.

I’m led to believe that about the same time another west Cork man decapitated himself while trying to hang himself with baling wire. What about the man from Co. Cavan where six guards broke down the door of his parents house where he was calmly and safely holding the child with his parents. The Guards held him and ripped the child from his grasp. Shortly later he hung himself. You didn’t hear? Isn’t that strange. When he was found onlookers were horrified to see that the cord had stretched and that his toes were touching the ground and that he has inadvertently slowly garrotted himself to death. Why?

Why not try a little test, pretend you disagree with a person on-air that is expressing anti-marriage opinions and see will they allow you on the show to contest their views. You should not have to wait long to hear such programmes as there is typically three or four hours per day allocated to them and generally at prime listening time.

And what about Bertie? This failed leader of our largest political establishment, who has led his party the greatest single denouncement of a government’s policy in the history of the state by common decision of the voters, is now being promoted by the media, one and all, to not just represent us but to preside over Europe? Vincent Brown’s show on Monday last tried to recoup some of the ground lost by having a program on ‘Bertie’s Achievements’ and how strange, everyone of the panellists seemed to think that Bertie was Michael Collins reincarnated. Next day Marion Finucane continued the exaltation.

And what about the escape hatch they are preparing to prevent ‘fan spatter’ by making it seem that McDowell did all the damage on his own. Poor Bertie never knew! He was concentrating on the new EU and it’s constitution that will instantly annihilate all the protection for our peoples that our forefathers handed down. Then again, he could not impose that new constitution on us if McDowell and his subversive cohorts had not weakened our foundations in readiness for Bertie’s onslaught. The people of Poland have threatened their prime minister with charges of Treason if he signed away their Constitutional protection. Do the people not feel betrayed by Bertie signing away our Constitution without us giving him our mandate through a referendum?

It appears that one the main goals of the new EU Constitution that Bertie masterminded is to get rid of God as if they had some Superior right to do so – or perhaps they will just replace ‘God’ with ‘Bertie’ then we can all stand and say;

Our Bertie, who art in Europe, Shallow be thy name
Their kingdom come, their way will be done in Ireland as it is in Brussels
Give us this day our daily dread, and forgive us our trespasses as we give and give and give to those who trespass against us, and who lead us into temptation and deliver us to evil.

The mind boggles when you consider what Bertie and the other EU bureaucrats will come up with for their new Ten Commandments.

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by Spitfire Mk III

Thu Jun 24, 2004 17:22

Let’s stop for a second and think about it!

When was the last time you saw a pro-marriage programme on the telly?

THE SIMPSONS

When last did you hear Vincent Brown or Marion Finucane or Joe Duffy or anyone else present a show that you might have disagreed with but where someone raised a cautionary note about the wisdom of promoting single-parent families above traditional married family values or such like?

Have never heard anyone promoting single-parent families above traditional married family values (but maybe I'm living on a different planet to you)

As for ther rest of your questions ...... Yawn ...

Reply to Spitfire Mk III's Yawn

Thu Jun 24, 2004 18:34

Wakey Wakey...

Yawning brings fresh oxygen to the brain!!!

You should try yawning more often. Why not give it a go ...

Try a BIG BIG yawn and then read the Article again

Does the fact that someone burned themself to death not merit more intelligent comment

Harry

by Lone Gunman

Thu Jun 24, 2004 18:47

You might get further around here if you lay off the God bothering tone in your posts.Your religion is your own thing,as it is with anyone else.
apart from that,best of luck trying to convert anyone else around here.

Gunman

by Sugar Daddy

Thu Jun 24, 2004 19:03

Just wait until you're on the receiving end of Family Court "justice" Irish style ......

Who knows maybe we'll read a headline in indymedia: "Lone gunman runs amok in solicitor's office" .....

I'm sure there's a good point there somewhere

by Naylor

Fri Jun 25, 2004 02:20

But it's not very clearly made.

To Harry

Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:23

"Does the fact that someone burned themself to death not merit more intelligent comment"

The fact that someone burned themselves to death indicates that they had a serious mental health problem.

He may or may not have had the same political outlook as yourself, and may or may not have been trying to make a statement by his death.

The fact that you're using this mans death to score cheap political points is despicable.

He should be left to rest in peace and his family not have to be reminded of the gruesome details by those trying to make political capital from the most unfortunate circumstances.

by john

Fri Jun 25, 2004 13:15

You are clearly wasting your time attempting to stimulate idiots like Lone Gunman who appears to be under the impression that you were talking about religion!

To be honest I had never heard of the cases you refer to but am not surprised as I regularly hear from men who are denied access to their children. It seems that anyone who even raises this issue is dismissed as some kind of fascist - John Waters, Geldof etc.

There but for the grace of god and all that ...

Hey sugar daddy

by lone gunman

Fri Jun 25, 2004 13:42

if you are so DUMB as to belive you would have a chance in the "girls club" of the Irish divorce court system.You deserve anything and everything you get. I wouldnt get married on this rock in a screamin fit.Go and get married in Europe or the USA ,prefably Vegas.have more fun and if it doesnt work out it is an easy matter to divorce.
But then again you impress me as being an "ah shure it will never happen to me "type.[as 90%of irish men are]
So no doubt the headline you are refering to implies to yourself.As you impress me as being the kind of very fustrated,cant take any critism,ex wife ate a pound of laxatives and spread her legs above your head person.
Use your head .Always have an escape hatch or another way out of anything.

Lets stop being Hurlers on the ditch

by Robert Bennett

Sun Dec 19, 2004 23:27

I had no problem finding references to this matter in Google-just leave out the possesive on the word Solicitor.

Skibbereen Solicitor's dousing Petrol ” on Google?

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