all volunteer collective

by Brian O'Dea Thu Oct 07, 2004 17:29

I am not aware of any IMCs which pay. IMC people put in a lot of time (and money) for no personal financial return. I also don't know of any which are planning to take any other course of action.

by redjade Thu Oct 07, 2004 17:43

'We know various IMC’s already have paid position'

worse than that, the cheques bounce!

'Payment creates hierarchies.'

not sure if lack of money equal no-hierarchy

'HIMC looks to the Zapatista model of resistance'

hmmm no WiFi in the jungle? that kinda sucks.

http://houston.indymedia.org

nice to yet another Oscailt site! we done :-)

we better put it on the growing list:
http://www.indymedia.ie/oscailt/

by Chekov - 1of Indymedia Ireland Thu Oct 07, 2004 18:06

NYC have paid positions in the publication of their print publication 'the indypendent'. I'm not aware of any other IMC's who have full timers, but that's not to say there aren't any.

However, i do agree with the point. A lack of paid positions does not mean no hierarchies, but paid positions do create hierarchies, witness the influence of generally unelected paid full-timers in trade unions, NGO's or political parties (I'm looking at you SWP ;-)

by Just interested Thu Oct 07, 2004 20:44

It certainly looks like an Oscailt site but it says "Running sf-active v0.9" at the bottom of the page. Is that a fork of Oscailt or what?

by crackly voices Thu Oct 07, 2004 20:47

.... we have a problem.

by Terry Fri Oct 08, 2004 00:34

I am surprised to hear that any IMC has paid staff. This is far as I am concerned is totally against the spirit and purpose of the whole Indymedia concept.

Once paid staff are introduced, it's only a very short step to becoming a part of the corporate media.

by vinnie Mon Oct 11, 2004 21:08

Its sf-active, Oscailt just borrowed some of the "look and feel" from sf-active, its completely different under the hood.

by -conspiracy Tue Oct 12, 2004 14:22

Rackspace the FBI troubled internet service provider has it's main offices in Hueston Texas.
Why does indymedia europe use servers in the USA or it's dominions?
Have we got to the stage to "make a break"?

by Nick - imc-houston Wed Oct 13, 2004 23:03 nickcooper at indymedia dot org

Rackspace is not in Houston, it is in San Antonio.

If you oppose the idea of having paid indymedia positions and approve of the idea of being an all-volunteer collective, please pass a similar statement in your collective. Maybe we will attain a critical mass and influence the collectives which are now paying people.