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category antrim | housing | feature author Thursday November 25, 2004 17:22author by hilda ogden Report this post to the editors

.... A Student told a Permanent Working Class Holyland Resident

From The Newswire: After a recent Spotlight programme highlighting some of the anti-social behaviour practised by some students in the Holylands was broadcast - students organised a protest in the Holylands to tell their Mummies and Daddies that 'No we're not really misbehaving going wild and spending your money on e's and booze'. Where then would students like permanent Holyland residents to move to?

I am a Protestant woman from North Belfast, whose partner is a Catholic from the Short Strand. The Holylands is one of the only neutral working class housing executive areas available to mixed religion working class families. My neighbour was also a Protestant woman whose partner was a Catholic from the Lower Ormeau. My other neighbour was a Catholic from the Whiterock whose ex-partner is a Protestant from East Belfast. One of the other families' mother was from the Lower Falls and her ex-partner was a Protestant from Portadown. Some of the other permanent resident families are ex-students from the countryside who've setttled in the Holylands with their kids for many years.

The Holylands is one of the first multi-cultural working class areas in Belfast, whose permanent residents' tolerance to mixed religion partnerships, all races and even students is renowned. I was forced out of the area in 1999 at the start of the private landlord HMO's conversion (housing multiple occupiers where landlords converted 2 up, 2 down terraces to 8 bedroom rat infested health and safety disasters) invasion. Students had me arrested on mistaken malicious 'possession of firearms and threats to kill' charges. At the time I was a parent governor of the local primary school.

The Holylands is a unique and tolerant area. On the street where I lived there were permanent resident Protestant pensioners and the families of ex-INLA men. We all lived side by side without any sectarian aggro and we all helped each other out and looked out for each other. For the authorities to allow a tiny minority of anti-social students to force permanent residents out and destroy the unique cultural make-up of the area would be a real loss to everyone.

Why has the problem of anti social student behaviour been allowed to go unchecked and escalate? The only reason I can think of is that once the last Housing Executive/Housing Association/Permanent Resident family is forced out - big time property developers will move in and raze the whole area to the ground to create another exclusive, faceless, characterless, cold yuppie zone like the areas along the Lisburn Road, which won't be welcoming to students either.

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 #   Title   Author   Date 
   confused     pc    Thu Nov 25, 2004 03:31 
   What a shame     Justin Morahan    Fri Nov 26, 2004 01:18 
   What raised my eyebrows.     Observer    Fri Nov 26, 2004 13:42 
   Response     Republican    Fri Nov 26, 2004 14:07 
   Maskey     Curious    Fri Nov 26, 2004 14:11 
   still very unclear     pc    Fri Nov 26, 2004 15:49 
   Don't think so     Markets Boy    Fri Nov 26, 2004 17:10 
   Oversimplified     MC    Fri Nov 26, 2004 20:53 
   Holylands     Terry    Fri Nov 26, 2004 20:54 
 10   observer piece on Holylands     eeekkk    Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:33 
 11   New laws for student dwellings     pc    Sun Nov 28, 2004 18:53 
 12   yeah     Sean    Tue Nov 30, 2004 18:31 
 13   STOP VICTIMISING STUDENTS! The real issue is freedom, not "anti-social behaviour"     Andy    Sun Dec 05, 2004 15:13 
 14   shameful     disgusted    Mon Dec 06, 2004 14:34 
 15   Holylands/Students     BDDT    Thu Dec 09, 2004 01:25 
 16   hmm     pc trollwatcher    Thu Dec 09, 2004 17:02 
 17   Student Area Not Permanant Residential     Typical Tyrone Student    Wed Dec 15, 2004 00:37 
 18   Just another drunken culchie here!     Proud Student    Sun Jan 30, 2005 16:40 
 19   It's a quote from the guardian dude - not eeekkkk     eeekkkk    Sun Jan 30, 2005 16:48 
 20   I'm only the messenger     eeekkkk    Sun Jan 30, 2005 16:50 
 21   two sides?     DG    Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:52 
 22   ok NOW i'm angry     suzanne    Tue Jul 05, 2005 16:45 
 23   GROW UP     amazed    Wed Sep 21, 2005 18:05 
 24   well said     suzanne    Fri Sep 23, 2005 14:12 
 25   naughty students     rooster    Thu Oct 20, 2005 14:17 
 26   MUG ME IM AN EASY TARGET???     Drunken Culchie Student    Wed Feb 08, 2006 21:03 
 27   20 years of the holylands     Looking on    Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:12 
 28   Queens policy     observer    Sat Apr 01, 2006 18:09 
 29   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7949145.stm     Max    Tue Mar 17, 2009 19:35 


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