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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4Quite disingenuous of you not to mention the PKK in this article. Bad as theTurkish regime may be you are guilty of twisting the facts (by omission) and your contributon would surely have been more meaningful if you had referred to what sparked the clampdown. It's not like a reference to the Turkish regime's treatment of its Kurdish minority would have set them near in any more an endearing light. Furthermore, it is difficult to defend your views on the motivation for the brutality displayed knowing that another (larger) Womens' day march in the same city on the same day passed off without incident.
I dont believe this march was solely conncerned with the PKK or Kurds. The main group behind the protests in the jails are socialist, secular and multi ethnic (turkamen, turkish, kurd etc , basically all the ethnic groups within turkey). The article refers to Kurdish prisoners also, so I dont see what Ciaran is complaining about. The fact is that women have been to the forefront of this struggle. Young girls in the prisons and their mothers on the outside have paid with their lives. Some have been murdered in horrific circumstances. Set on fire, burned with chemicals and crushed with bulldozers.
There is absolutely nothing disingenous in this article at all. Could Ciaran explain what axe he is grinding here ?
The clampdown (or to be more precise mass-murder) in these jails began as a result of the Turkish regimes decision to introduce F Block isolation wings, similar to the H Blocks in this country. I hope Ciaran is not attempting to blame the victims , or trying to justify the use of facist brutality by the Turkish regime.
"I state that it is not about middle class coffee"
You'll find in Turkey that it is not just the middle class who drink coffee!
Barry,
You may have a point. I felt that the gist of the article (the Turkish state's oppression of women - personally I think this is as much a manifestation of culture as politics - and its patriarchal nature) was avoiding the fact that the violence began when at this particular Women's Day demonstration (as I said others, one in the same city which was larger, passed off without incident) PKK banners were unfurled. Also, the "EU's new bedfellows" reference irked because, if anything, eventual admission to the EU would imply that many of the human rights abuses known to be current in Turkey would have to have been solved for this to come to pass (if you believe the rhetoric, that's another story), that's the (purported) reason that negotiations on the negotiations have gone on for so long and why Turkey can expect to have to negotiate (in actual admission negotiations) for longer than any other prospective member, past or present.