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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9eh? its not just enough to know marx won.
we demand to know who he beat.
;-)
russel, sartre, camus, heidigger, ponty, mcluhan, hegel, socrates etc etc ad nauseum ad infiitum
Don't get over excited. Hardly any members of the working-class listen to Radio 4. Its mostly middle-class people from the Home Counties who provide its listenership. Marxism has always had a certain appeal to rich people who have never experienced it in practise and who are rich enough to be able to flee to a different country should it ever be tried out in their own country. In addition, many people confuse Karl Marx with Groucho Marx. What percentage of the votes did Marxist parties get at the recent UK general election? That would be a more meaningful figure.
“Labour is ... not the only source of material wealth, ie of the use-values it produces. As William Petty says, labour is the father of material wealth, the earth is its mother.” [Marx, Chapter One - Capital]
Dear john
Get a grip!
Your constant criticism of Marxist and socialist thinking is as hollow as the free market, libertarian thinking that you espouse.
Working class people know that their lives are affected in a negative way by the free market and that unfettered capitalism has not worked.
Can you answer me one question ?
Can the capitalist system we have today work without exploitation ?
If you want to know just how cosy people are towards Marx, root out a copy of Francis Wheen's recent biography of the man and look at the pages of praise it got.
Its not because time has turned Marx into a harmless beardy, its because people are waking up.
"Don't get over excited. Hardly any members ......"
Thank God somebody else realises the farce of rich marxists! Engels was a very wealthy English aristocrat! Jolly ho power to the .....erm....commoners.
Plato,
i think you'll find that Engels was German. Marx, despite coming from a middle class family, lived - along with his family - most of their lives in poverty. If I'm not mistaken two of Marx's children died from diseases associated with the poverty conditions they endured
Turkeys voting for Christmas?