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This story is not for republication. I bear responsibility for the things I write. I have read the guidelines and understand that I must not write anything untrue, and I won't.
This is a public interest story about a complete failure of governance and management at UCC.

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This analysis is a pretty unique and significant contribution to the space of empirical evaluation of LLMs that exist in AI public world... at least thus far, as far as I am aware! For what it's worth--as if anyone in the ChatGPT universe cares as they pile up on using the "PhD level scholar in your pocket".

According to GPT-5, and according to my tests, this flaw exists in all LLMs... What is revealing is the deduction GPT-5 made: Why ?design choice? starts looking like ?deliberate flaw?.

People are paying $200 a month to not just ChatGPT, but all major LLMs have similar Pro pricing! I bet they, like the normal user of free ChatGPT, stay in LLM's default mode where the flaw manifests itself. As it did in this evaluation.

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With the release of this report titled: Our Genocide -there is a good chance this will make it okay for more people within Israel itself to speak out and do something about it despite the fact that many there are actually in support of the Gaza

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THIS STORY IS UNVERIFIED BUT PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OR READ THE TRANSCRIPT AS IT GIVES AN VERY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT A CASHLESS SOCIETY WILL LOOK LIKE. And it ain't pretty

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Tapped Out - Water Charges, By The Meter

category national | consumer issues | opinion/analysis author Tuesday October 24, 2006 16:32author by Elaine O'Sullivan / Seán Ryan Report this post to the editors

The (Tolled) Road To Privatisation

The country took one step closer to water privatisation recently with the announcement that Celtic Anglian Water have landed the contract for the Waste Water Treatment Plant, part of the Waterford Main Drainage Project. The Irish Examiner described them as ‘the international division of Anglian Water’. However, a quick scan of the company’s website tells a different story, Anglian water have only a 50% stake. ‘Celtic Anglian water’ (CAW), is listed on the NTR (national toll roads) website as a subsidiary company. Along with such shining lights of Irish capitalism as Greenstar, Airtricity, Bioverda, Irish Broadband and National Toll Roads themselves.

http://www.ntr.ie/companies/
taps.jpg

According to the NTR website…

“The company currently holds a 20-year contract to operate Dublin's new wastewater treatment plant at Ringsend. With the capacity to treat sewage from a population of 1.7 million, it is the largest and most advanced wastewater treatment plant in Europe.

CAW also operates a new water treatment facility in Sligo and is tendering for further contracts under the government's investment programme for water and sewage services. In 2005, CAW was awarded the Galway Non-Domestic Metering Project Contract.”

With regard to the Galway Non-Domestic Metering Project, The Tuam Herald ran a story on the 24th August last warning its readers about ‘The End Of Cheap Water’. Businesses would bear the brunt, they told us. They would have to pay ‘by the gallon’ from January 1st.

(cut and paste used as password needed to access site)

“Most businesses have been paying fixed charges for water for a number of years, usually referred to as water rates, but many smaller non-domestic users and farms have escaped the net until now.

The last fixed-charge bills are being issued by Celtic Anglian Water in conjunction with Galway Co. Council and this Athenry-based company will be taking charge of all metering and bill services on behalf of Galway Co. Council. The council will continue to be responsible for water supply, pressure and water quality.

Co. Council Director of Service Jim Cullen explained that up to now a non-domestic user such as a hotel would pay a fixed charge for water no matter how much was used. From January 1st next this business will be metered and billed according to the volume used.

This he explained was a fairer method of paying for the service and is in line with EU policy.”

The EU policy he is referring to is called the Water Framework Directive, which requires ‘pricing policies’ to be in place by 2010.

“He (Jim Cullen) added that the metering system was a requirement under an EU directive and it is designed to conserve water by encouraging users to waste less. It is based on the user pays principle and should benefit the environment.”

Very interesting bit of flawed logic in that last sentence as it is not water itself that costs money but rather the infrastructure, which is used by consumers equally. Therefore the costs, if any, should be borne equally by all consumers. I had assumed, wrongly it seems, that that is where our taxes went. Another double taxation anyone?

Schools and Farms, to take two examples, are high users, which under the ‘user pays’ principle would see their costs rocket. The social effect of this policy does not appear to have been a factor in the decision making process. As will become painfully apparent in a few short years when the domestic consumer is expected to pay for their water too, as per the European Water Framework Directive. And you thought the bin tax was unpopular!

Dick Roche seems unlikely to discuss the issue of water privatisation for the domestic consumer before the next election. For a party hanging on by a thread, that is probably a wise move. They have already angered their voter base, the farming community, with these charges. The Roscommon Herald on August 9th carried a story called “IFA meets Minister Roche on water charges issue”. The rocky road ahead for Fianna Fail was apparent in the opening paragraph…

“IFA recently met the Minister for the Environment, Mr Dick Roche, to inform him of the deep anger among farmers in the county at the significant costs which will result from new water charging policies.”

The closing paragraph carried the threat.

“Roscommon IFA County Executive called on all farmers in the county not to pay any water charges until Minister Roche clarified the situation.” And so it begins.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?E3DC13ABD

On Tuesday 25th April, in a Dail Debate, Mr. Roche had this to say…

“Mr. Timmins asked the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government the position on water charges for national schools; if these rates are in line with policy governing this area; the way in which the standard rate is calculated; if the rates increase with the size of the school; and if he will make a statement on the matter?

Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government (Mr. Roche): Local authorities are required to recover the cost of providing water services from the users of these services, with the exception of householders. The cost of providing water services to the non-domestic sector should be fully recovered by local authorities by means of a meter-based volumetric charge. While current arrangements for schools may, as with other non-domestic users, be based on fixed water services charges, local authorities are moving towards the metering of all non-domestic water use.”

http://makeashorterlink.com/?S54D12ABD

These charges will no doubt be passed on to the parents of children attending the school, who will have to foot another bill for ‘free education’.

Just three short days later on the 28th April, IBEC had this to say on the issue of water charges.
“Businesses may be forced to pay higher charges to local authorities if the government fails to reform local government
Business and employers group IBEC issued the warning after Minister for Environment Dick Roche TD refused to implement key recommendations of the Indecon Report into local authority funding published last month - such as introducing domestic water charges and imposing a new tax on non-principal private residences.”
“Many of the services provided by local government were essential to the functioning of all sectors of society, but it was “only business which is picking up the bill”.

Among the major reforms demanded by IBEC were the introduction of water meters into all homes, subjecting the accounts of local authorities spending in excess of €9 billion to review by the Comptroller and Auditor General and the introduction of an efficiency fund to reward Local Authorities that demonstrated high levels of efficiency.

Minister Roche dismissed fears of a shortfall in funding, claiming local authorities “should have adequate resources to meet demands in 2006 and beyond”. He added that he was “fully committed to the pursuit of further efficiency in local government and want to see the bang for every buck that is spent”.

http://www.techcentral.ie/small_business/Higher_charges/

I tend to distrust the use of words like ‘should’ as it implies that maybe they won’t and he knows it and is covering his ass.

So IBEC are spearheading the charge (no pun intended) for domestic water charges on the basis of fairness. It’s damaging to the economy, be afraid be very afraid.

Another incidental, Mr Brian Geoghegan, who is a former chairman of FÁS and was IBEC's director of economic policy until recently, is of course married to the Mammy Harney who just recently got herself out of the line of fire. How unpopular would the PD’s be when Mr Mary Harney’s former group gets its way and you, the ordinary punter, start paying for your water.

Who will you be paying for your water? Most likely a company called Celtic Anglian Water. As mentioned above, they are a joint venture between NTR and Anglian Water.

According to CAW's website ...

"Celtic Anglian Water (CAW) was established in 1998 to participate in the development of Ireland's water and wastewater infrastructure. CAW is a 50/50 joint venture between Celtic Utilities Limited and Anglian Water (Ireland) Ltd. a wholly owned subsidiary of awg plc (formally known as Anglian Water Plc)."

The important information contained on another page in their website tells us that they were

"established to participate in the Government's Capital investment Programme for Water and Sewerage Services"

http://www.caw.ie/

Back in 2001, NTR acquired the majority shareholding in Celtic Utilities Ltd.

http://www.rte.ie/business/2001/0815/ntr.html

thereby becoming AW's new partner and a 50% stakeholder in CAW.

The Indo's business section has this advice for would be investors... "Well, although Ireland is unique amongst EU countries in that it doesn't charge consumers for domestic water, NTR does have a long-term play through Celtic Anglian Water, its partnership with Anglian Water.

It runs the massive Ringsend Treatment plant on a 20-year contract and, although such a deal is a mere foothold in an embryonic market, it's another reason to snap up NTR shares while you still can.

Stock in the UK water utilities is like hen's teeth at the moment, with a number of them the subject of bidding wars.

Water may forever be free in this fair isle, but if it ever becomes metered, I know which company will be in with a fair chance of doing the billing."

http://www.unison.ie/business/stories.php3?ca=80&si=1700226

If it ever becomes metered....?

According to the Water Framework Directive Pricing Policies have to be in place by 2010. Article 9, entitled Recovery of costs for water services, reads as follows...

1. Member states shall take account of the principle of recovery of the costs of water services, including environmental and resource costs, having regard to the economic analysis conducted according to Annex III, and in accordance in particular with the polluter pays principle.

Member states shall ensure that by 2010

- that water pricing policies provide adequate incentives for users to use water resources efficiently, and thereby contribute to the environmental objectives of this Directive,

- an adequate contribution to the different water uses, disaggregated into at least industry, households and agriculture, to the recovery of the costs of water services, based on the economic analysis conducted according to Annex III and taking account of the polluter pays principle.

Member states may in so doing have regard to the social, environmental and economic effects of the recovery as well as the geographic and climatic conditions of the region or regions affected.

Annex III, called simply Economic Analysis contains the following...

The economic analysis shall contain enough information in sufficient detail (taking account of the costs associated with collection of the relevant data) in order to:

(a) make the relevant calculations necessary for taking into account under Article 9 the principle of recovery of the costs of water services, taking account of long term forecasts of supply and demand for water in the river basin district and, where necessary:

- estimates of the volume, prices and costs associated with water services, and

- estimates of relevant investment including forecasts of such investments;

(b) make judgements about the most cost-effective combination of measures in respect of water uses to be included in the programme of measures under Article 11 based on estimates of the potential costs of such measures.

http://www.wfdireland.ie/

The government is currently testing the waters of public reaction to the outrage of water privatisation. The ESRI (The Economic and Social Research Institute), in the last few days have recommended that water charges be introduced.

They've coupled this alongside such ideas as reducing spending on health care. The government may conveniently be forced to choose between the lesser of two evils.

Water privatisation is on the way -

I can feel it in my water!

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Speculation     HOO    Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:10 
   Get past the blurb     Seán Ryan    Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:43 
   Mr Ryan     HOO    Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:50 
   HOO is right!     Council worker    Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:13 
   Fear?     Charles B.    Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:51 
   Already my stalker/troll and his sock puppet begins his work     Seán Ryan    Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:52 
   Mr Ryan     HOO    Wed Oct 25, 2006 13:15 
   Will the govt try to bring in water charges?     Socialist    Wed Oct 25, 2006 13:19 
   Socialist     HOO    Wed Oct 25, 2006 16:07 
 10   The Real Story     BA    Wed Oct 25, 2006 16:22 
 11   Legislation     HOO    Wed Oct 25, 2006 16:48 
 12   ffs FF     Seán Ryan    Wed Oct 25, 2006 16:54 
 13   Who Pays     BA    Wed Oct 25, 2006 17:00 
 14   Swings and Roundabouts     Me Jaitor    Thu Oct 26, 2006 08:06 
 15   Blue Gold     number 6    Thu Oct 26, 2006 21:17 
 16   The quality of Anglian Water     Seán Ryan    Sun Oct 29, 2006 16:38 
 17   Real World     idespair    Mon Oct 30, 2006 18:44 
 18   Free water for the poor and the old only.     Ishke    Mon Oct 30, 2006 19:20 
 19   Nil Desperandum     Aquaman    Mon Oct 30, 2006 19:24 
 20   Spin, spin and more spin - you are only making yourself dizzy     Seán Ryan    Mon Oct 30, 2006 20:16 
 21   water from the sky     idespair    Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:52 
 22   Idespair     Seán Ryan    Tue Oct 31, 2006 14:55 
 23   Irish Law & EU Directives     HOO    Tue Oct 31, 2006 15:18 
 24   HOO     Seán Ryan    Tue Oct 31, 2006 15:26 
 25   Only Part Put Into Effect     HOO    Tue Oct 31, 2006 15:32 
 26   Answer     Seán Ryan    Tue Oct 31, 2006 21:09 
 27   Privatisation?     HOO    Thu Nov 02, 2006 16:53 
 28   Privitisation     Seán Ryan    Thu Nov 02, 2006 20:36 
 29   privitisation is a failure but you cannot tell some people that     privates    Thu Nov 02, 2006 20:46 
 30   Anglia Does Not Own The Water Supply     HOO    Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:49 
 31   Try smiling on the other side of your head     Seán Ryan    Fri Nov 03, 2006 18:06 
 32   Sean Ryan     HOO    Fri Nov 03, 2006 18:24 
 33   Boo Hoo Hoo     number 6    Sat Nov 04, 2006 13:39 
 34   H2O     sane    Sun Nov 05, 2006 18:58 
 35   debate is good     idespair    Sun Nov 05, 2006 20:38 
 36   Boo Hoo Hoo     HOO    Mon Nov 06, 2006 20:39 
 37   If water is not to be charged, why meter new housing?     Niall    Tue Nov 07, 2006 15:48 
 38   Wealth and water     R. Isible    Tue Nov 07, 2006 19:32 
 39   Interesting Article From The Indo...     Elaine    Wed Nov 08, 2006 14:05 
 40   Farmers     pat c    Wed Nov 08, 2006 14:08 
 41   Privatisation and Charges     Seán Ryan    Wed Nov 08, 2006 14:58 
 42   Water Charges     pat c    Wed Nov 08, 2006 15:07 
 43   Privatisation     Seán Ryan    Wed Nov 08, 2006 15:20 
 44   Sean     pat c    Wed Nov 08, 2006 15:36 
 45   Water Politics- Globalisation and Pallaskenry     C Murray    Wed Nov 08, 2006 16:13 
 46   Dirty tap water versus cool clean privatised water     Seán Ryan    Thu Nov 09, 2006 14:47 
 47   Sean     pat c    Thu Nov 09, 2006 14:55 
 48   Debate - punch and judy style     Seán Ryan    Thu Nov 09, 2006 15:31 
 49   SEan     pat c    Thu Nov 09, 2006 15:43 
 50   MSM take the hint.     Seán Ryan    Mon Nov 20, 2006 14:54 
 51   Water Charges The Danger     pat c    Mon Nov 20, 2006 15:33 
 52   Don't cry wolf when you cluck like a chicken     Seán Ryan    Tue Nov 21, 2006 20:31 
 53   No Privatisation! No Charges!     pat c    Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:27 
 54   will you be as steadfast in your responce to the abuse described, as you are to the abuse you allege     Seán Ryan    Wed Nov 22, 2006 14:17 
 55   privatisation     pat c    Wed Nov 22, 2006 14:46 
 56   Pat C     True Left    Mon Nov 27, 2006 20:38 
 57   metres     maggot    Mon Nov 27, 2006 21:24 
 58   Metering in the North     Michael    Mon Nov 27, 2006 21:37 
 59   i disagree, i think they do now.     True Left    Mon Nov 27, 2006 21:49 
 60   Avoid confusion     True Left    Mon Nov 27, 2006 21:59 
 61   "True Left"     pat c    Tue Nov 28, 2006 17:06 
 62   Knowing me knowing you????     True Left    Tue Nov 28, 2006 19:29 
 63   meters     pat c    Tue Nov 28, 2006 19:57 
 64   Update     Seán Ryan    Fri Dec 08, 2006 22:50 
 65   Donegal being urged to introduce water metering     Seán Ryan    Tue Dec 26, 2006 19:24 


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