Amnesty, Indymedia UK and Dermot Ahern On Mugabe Crisis

by C Murray Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:23

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/africa/article23839...5.ece

The UK indymedia article has been hidden but the S.A link still works:-

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/sadc9.16165.html

It's a round about way of looking at how those with' interests 'in the area are dealing
with the issue of violence against the MDC, the attempt to propagandise against the leaders
whilst seizing their passports and removing them from the airports is enough to say that
liberties were threatened by the current regime.

by Sean Addis Sat Mar 24, 2007 14:04

Mr Tatchell seems to be attempting to bring reality to the manufactured stories emanating from MI6 regarding the mistreatment of the so called Opposition in Zimbabwe. First of all, it is not an Opposition but a terrorist movement. Mr Tatchell supports the Zimbabwe Freedom Movement, which is in favour of violent revolution inside Zimbabweagainst the democratically elected government. A violent and bloody revolution that would see the White farmers and their European chain store backers regain their former status within their former colony.

Mr Tatchell once fled conscription to the army in his native Australia before becoming a Labout Party candidate in Britain and supporting the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. He supports and has supported violent actions worldwide, that funnily enough, fall in line with British foreign policy, so he should not be so outraged by a few terrorists getting bloody noses in Zimbabwe. Except, of course they are not terrorists to him and MI6.

I hope the elite who control the British Empire, the US and Australia do not regain control of Zimbabwe with the help of propaganda emanating from South African newspapers controlled by Tony O Reilly and indeed from those here in Ireland also owned by the Queens Knight.

by C Murray Sat Mar 24, 2007 15:01

But I did try to balance it, check the links- the S.A press are deriding and endangering
the MDC- Blair wants to work with the Mugabe cronies and amnesty seem the only ones
that are calling for an end to the violence.

re :- Tatchell- he is only one.
I am rather concerned also at the the Darfur Letter- signed by artistic luminaries
including Heaney- yes , they are right to protest but the list includes but one woman.

One woman writer.

Now who makes our luminaries and why are not the messages equally inputed
by women? we are it seems locked out of many 'democratic' processes,
religious decision making and even in ireland the gender studies centre
in Galway is being rationalised.

The protest letter re Dharfur is available on the London Independent Website.
The gender studies protest is on this site.

by ipsi .:. o as if Sun Mar 25, 2007 18:06

Yes, MI6 are and have been involved in all system approached foreign affairs policies from HMG UK and her "allies" to Zimbabwe and Rhodesia before since the mid1950's. We're not only talking about the cloak and dagger crew who have now failed on six seperate ocassions to connect their hardware to bases (embassy / consul) and thus offer proper logistic support to a clean "taking out" of Mr Mugabe.
We are also talking about the "opinion formers" and conduits and assetts so beloved of Vauxhall cross. I suppose the last commentator who thought to shut C. up with the "gurgle it's MI6!" has properly analysed the contributions of Kate Hoey (as HMG minister and just as MP for vauxhall) to the whole story in the last 4 years. I used to have monthly chats with Hoey in the mid to late 90's in London about this and that - it helped to know who she was - good biscuits - disappointing results but at end the gun and knife amnesties did save some lives and the "gosoft" on cannabis did free up a bit of time to take on crack dealers. & thus did our beloved squatters sleep safe on their mattresses a while.

So........... let's bring it up a level now that we're all sitting comfortably - if we all want Mugabe to go - are we ready to decide what we want in his place? & then does it matter so much at this stage who gets him out? I do not think Hoey, Vauxhall and the radio broadcasts of the last 4 years have achieved anything. I don't see wide public outrage at leaked satelite photos of the class-based and ethnic based cleansing. It has been a very long time since I've read hint of what lurks almost a mile underneath Mugabe's kingdom ( in the Rhodesian mines ) - on a serious site.

But Ireland does have a role to play. After all - it was the first European state Mugabe visited as head of state. I know I was there. I was a tiny lad walking to the bus around Stephen's Green and could get under the cordons without much difficulty to stand juust in front of him and his aide de camp and then be ushered away by a garda. The garda was full of respect for Mr Mugabe. I suppose I had my chance to stick him with my pen-knife then for global justice & the advancement of the african & permanent end to the financial basis of apartheid. I'd be out of the juvenile care by now. They might have let me keep a kruggerand as a souvenir..,

Let's give it a little bit more time - olé Mr Ahern - that was the sort of pressure you can put !
Send in Bono and Geldof now.
http://72.232.163.18/article/70578 http://www.indymedia.ie/article/70578

by iosaf Mon Mar 26, 2007 15:00

has given an interview from his sick-bed to BBC Radio 4, bits and bobs of which you can read here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6495343.stm you'll be on the BBC site so it will be easy enough to find the "bbc radio" section and listen to the whole thing if you want. Selections from Radio 4 are broadcast through the "world service" on short and medium wave and can be listened to in Zimbabwe. Other signals organised by migrant groups (most notably based in London) are blocked by the Mugabe regime under some pretext or other. Zimbabwe is also on the list of "internet freedom predators" - the mechanism used by the regime to stop people like us making contact with Zimbabweans is quite novel - "they make it so expensive - they cover the cost of their own monitoring".

Anyway - Tsvengarai says he's sure Mugabe will be gone within a year - & insists that there is now a "road map" which will see members of his own party join with others in Mugabe's party to bring Zimbabwe out of the mess it is in. I have not -(for what it is worth) seen enough engagement by South Africa. Nor have I seen a hint of you know the great big filthy secret I'd like out in the open which I hinted at in the last comment having a proper look a mile down in the mines just in case anything untoward had been left there - something valuable & useful.

let's see how it goes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6495343.stm

by C Murray Mon Mar 26, 2007 19:37

Whilst a worthy man and sole father of a few kids, I do have to ask why the Dharfur letter
which was signed by liteary luminaries was signed by men and only one woman was
included. The Tate in London has been made aware of the lack of gender balnce in it's exhibitions.

Come on now- women comprise half of humanitty (or more) but their voices
are sorely missed in relation to the history we are creating for our daughters.

The workers in the ghettoes, in the religions, In war are silent.
Why does not Sir Bob support fiancially through education the voices of the women of
Dharfur- a lot of the problems have been sustained by the colonial history of Abuse in that
continent.

The text of the Dharfur letter is in the London Observor (sunday) the campaign to heighten
awareness of the plight of the people is treated by Stoppard in the london independent
todAY. Empowering and supporting the words of the people is far better than imposing a first
world view onto the catastrophe in Africa.

The Tate story on gender balance is in the London Independent.
Exhibitors and organisers have been made aware of the lack of cultural voice of women
artists (again).

by solomon Mon Mar 26, 2007 20:15

maybe you could arrange it so that men suffered poverty more? I notice they lag far behind their sisters in this. Couldn't you write some letters & up men on the civil war, genocide and general Darfur suffering stakes? I must say - I'm all for equal suffering. & defy anyone not to be.