Justice For Terence Wheelock

by maura Mon Jul 30, 2007 17:37

i think it ivery much reality, kennedy assination i dont know, social welfare dont know...
i do know this it is only a matter of time befor an indepedent inquiry will be established.
This case has many disturbing aspects to it and has truobled a lot of people questions need to be answered in the public's interest.
I am confident that the new ombudsman commision well treat this case very differently than what the garda's own internal investigation, which was shrouded in secrecy and not made public, we dont live in russia, and we should not have to put up with that kind of nomsense, thank god this kind of commision was set up . long over due...

by Sherlock Mon Jul 30, 2007 08:55

What involvement had Terence Wheelock in the Kennedy assasination ? How can any agency with the word Garda in it be independent? The Governemenet pays the Garda Ombudsmans budget in the same way they pay Wheelocks social welfare. Hardly independent ? If there is going to be justice ignore the opinion of the Pathologist employed by the family who stated that he did not believe an assault took place. GET A GRIP ON REALITY

by mel Sat Jul 28, 2007 17:59

you paint a pretty picture al,
but i cant get my head around the gaurds behavour that day
so now the station is metal and concrete.
and theres no signal for mobiles on any of the networks, and everybody leaves there mobile at the desk,
and oh yeah, the landline is broke too. wow totally isolated from the outside world! and its a police station!
well unfortuanatly, for young wheelock that was the tragic case.
nobody to help this lad, or come to his aid
readers are we suppose to accept that terence wheelock gouged through this solid concrete with his bear hands to fit a lace a round a a metal alarm panel fushed and incased in a conrete wall?
come on al.
why did you remove him from the cell why not commence CPR there, you seen to know first aid..
is not moving a seriously ill person a requirement of first aid?
and why renovate a cell where a potential crime was carried out?
would it not of made more sense for the gardai to show the emergency personel the cell at the time?
instead of forensically cleaning it down not to mention painting the walls befor there solicitor had seen it?
and why the mistakes with the custody records? a legal document.
why where gardai who searched terence not listed in the custody record?
and why where there such a delay in ringing emergency services.
according to the custody records terence was checked 9 times in an hour.
While the other detainee arrested for questioning alongside him was checked only twice.
three out of those 9 times where with in a 12 min time frame
minutes befor he was supposedly found hanging,
(once every 4 minutes) if we are to believe this version of events put forward in a custody record and presented to the coroners court,
then we have to accept that no sooner was this gaurd walking down a hall then he was walking back up again to check in on a lad that was suppose to be a sleep at 2.40 pm in the day. unusual behaviour.
litrally minutes befor he was alleged to have woken up and decided to end it all , gouged out a wall fixed a lace and then strangle himself,
oh and by the way on those occasions mins befor his injuries its stated in big letters ALL IS WELL. and that he was asleep. hmmmm this is by the gardai's own version,
And when you take in to account medical evidence which suggests that terence was with out oxygen for oveer 40 minutes. it is incredible
put simply is does not add up.
And a indepedent inquiry is the only way to find out the truth of that day, i would glady accept its findings.
why dont the gardai welcome this?

by Al Sat Jul 28, 2007 14:43

Hang on a second, theres a standard method for removing someone thats hanged themself? They give lessons on this do they? Actually they do but your told to relieve the pressure first such as picking the person up then remove the item. The method to remove is in your hands, the item its attached to might be easier to reach, not as tight or simple removed once the pressure has been relieved from it. Or possible its easier to remove the item from the persons neck. Its a case by case situation and anyone with half a brain and basic knowledge or experience would tell you this so dont try and make out that the A, B, C of how he was removed from the cell indicated anything but an emergency.

Did anyone think that maybe not all Gardai carry mobile phones? Or that they were left at a desk or even that underneath all that metal and concrete they dont get a signal? Jesus the conspiracy theories are really getting lame now.

Roll on the Ombudsman, will you accept his decision when these lies against Gardai are exposed as exactly that? I think not.

by Gregor Kerr - 1st May Branch WSM Fri Jul 27, 2007 15:59

The Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission is to open it first ever public-interest investigation to inquire into the death of young Dublin man Terence Wheelock (20) who was found hanging in a Garda cell in 2005.

see full story here
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0727/bre...9.htm

by not Tue Jul 17, 2007 13:10

http://www.tribune.ie/article.tvt?_scope=Tribune/News/H...=News

The report continues that it "may be the case that instead of removing the cord from Mr Wheelock's neck by loosening the noose, which would be the expected emergency response, that the cord was first removed from the bell plate and repositioned subsequently for the photograph." No physician involved in Wheelock's care at the Mater gave evidence at the inquest

by tony Mon Jul 16, 2007 19:49

i agree con, keep up the good work.

by Con Carroll Mon Jul 16, 2007 13:42

there are many who like to be arm-chair thrillers
it can be a lonely walk for those who want justice and truth
the justice for Terence Wheelock campaign would put many to shame.
one should read yesterday article in Sunday Tribune 15/06/
about the evidence which was not accepted into the inquest into the death of Terence Wheelock. it is very serious.
all the more reason for a full independent inquiry

by john Sun Jul 15, 2007 13:16

she also stated that the she could not explain severe swelling on his knuckles and hands pluss grazing at surpised her when she examined sharpers pictures of the deceased man, but stated that it might no of happened in the station??? who does she know and admitst it could of happened at time of arrest and be consistent with an assault but not nesscesarily on him?? very media concious if you ask me?
this is the same woman who failed to examine photos when she reached her earlier conclusion in nov 06, and was sent back to reveiw her position, she does not want another brian murphy ,
come on folks talk about ulterior motives,
and as for the gaurds involed , c'mon has the author has pionted out, the phone did'nt work,fucksake use your mobile you idiot, i for crissakes its an emergency,
its disgusting what therre trying to get away with.

by twoit2woo Sat Jul 14, 2007 21:01

No! Guard Watch. The pathologist didn't say that the bloodstains could have come from one of Mr Wheelocks friends. The pathologist was much more precise in her finding. She said that blood from a near relative was found on Mr Wheelock.

You will no doubt join with me in demanding that the Gardai now re-open the criminal investigation to determine what really hapened to the unfortunate Mr Wheelock that night. I understand that the Gardai would welcome the events of the night being investigated by an independent investigation team from a foreign policeforce.

We demand justice for Terence Wheelock!

by guard watch Sat Jul 14, 2007 18:31

the body of a man has been found face down in a pool of his own blood in garda store street station....state patholgist ( garda spokeswoman) cassidy has said it is an obvious case of suicide.....the first 17 stab wounds indicated minor resistance but the resultant lacerations and bruising around the neck and abdomen area of the "suicide victim" clearly indicate the man was hell bent on suicide. the state pathologist also remarked that the "blood could have come from any one of the victims friends" clearly bracketing the victim and his friends as a group of violence adrenalin junkies and showing scant regard for the victims families or/and friends

by Stoph Fri Jul 13, 2007 04:31

So one guard after another, took the stand and lied through their teeth...
anyone get the feeling of déja-vu here?

Lets not forget the facts here...which are readily available and speak for themselves Mr Hanley...

by anon Fri Jul 13, 2007 02:56

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/ireland...2.ece

Inquest hears that Wheelock died from injuries from low-level hanging
The State Pathologist Dr Marie Cassidy has said that Terence Wheelock died from injuries sustained from a low-level hanging. She told the inquest into his death that Mr Wheelock suffered irreversible brain damage during the incident and that the autopsy showed no evidence of significant brain injury.

Dr Cassidy said the markings on Terence Wheelock's neck, below and behind his ears and under his adam's apple were consistent with those sustained with a narrow ligature.When photographs of Mr Wheelock's injuries, three months prior to his death were shown in the court Dr Cassidy remarked that they were much better quality than the ones she had seen.???

She said the grazing on Mr Wheelock's elbow and lower back was similar in appearance to those made by the ligature.??? She said there was no evidence of a struggle and that the grazing may have occurred while Mr Wheelock's body was being moved.

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/g....html
On the stand this morning, Inspector William Johnston who was on duty the day Terence Wheelock was arrested, said he was completely sure the scene from which the deceased was removed was not interfered with. He said he did not see any blood or vomit on his clothing and had taken a mental note of it.
Inspector Sean Campbell said he had noted a ligature mark on Terence Wheelock's neck when he saw him in the hospital and that he had collected a T-shirt belonging to him from a nurse a number of days later.

by Justice - N/a Thu Jul 12, 2007 18:06

Good luck with the hearing and fair play to you for keeping the long battle going. Good Job.