Agent Provocateurs Caught in the Act

by hee hee hee Sun Aug 26, 2007 19:39

If you in your stocking feet & stentorian speechmaking measure up to either Jim Larkin (very big man with a great loud voice ) or Evo Morales (quite short in the physical stakes but easy to hear) - you're a leader.
If you've paid all your membership dues & examine market survey data with the purpose of ascertaining the most cost efficient way to repackage the logo & manifesto of centre right neo-liberal politics as a fitting follow-up to the Pat Rabbitte years of bringing tolerance of right wing policies and ushering in the progressive democrats -
you're a bureaucrat.

oh gosh - I slipped in to radio mode there (c/f http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0826/rabbittep.html )

Just out of interest - are there standard issue Garda boots in Ireland? I know sandals are out (along with the turbans). Over here (in the spanish state which boasts more types of police than we can count on any one limb) we just identify them by their retractable batons & penchant for using oriental martial arts weapons like the kubaton. But of course that realisation and id process comes after they've provoked trouble. I suggest an informal discussion on how to identify agent provacateurs & what to do about it is in order. So that this Quebec story shines as a milestone on our (slipping in stentorian hectoring now) LONG ROAD TO SOCIALISM.

by te Sun Aug 26, 2007 17:21

Great video. But could somebody please explain to me what the difference is between a union leader and a union bureaucrat. Is it that when such people do things we approve of we call them workers' leaders or trade union leaders ,but when they do things we don't like we call them bureaucrats ? I've never been able to work work it out.

by dr moreau Sat Aug 25, 2007 15:49

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gAfzUOx53Rg in English language vid form
& from the piggies mouth in French http://www.suretequebec.gouv.qc.ca/accueil/communiques/....html which more or less says that after analysing the vid taken by the police (note neither the media or protesters) it's now appropriate to confirm that these individuals are Quebecker police. They were acting under orders to identify non-pacifist protesters and prevent rioting. The police officers were mingling with the protesters and (check this out) they refused to throw projectiles. (quite right the trade union dued shamed that cop to drop the rock.....now it gets good......) at no time do the police force of Quebec act [are deployed] as agent provacateurs or to commit criminal acts. Moreover it is not in the policy of service of the police nor their strategy to act in such a manner. At all times they carried out their duty in maintaining order & security. [pretty much to that effect]

They were caught.
snared rapid.

by Joe Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:58

Quebec police had admitted they were cops

by Dr Moreau Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:11

go to coplines - push - lie on ground - wriggle little trotters...

by Sandals Man Fri Aug 24, 2007 01:55

Well done. The video was just fine and showed an intelligent union leader acting immediately to curtail underhand police abuse of an anti-globalisation protest. Popular protests can be targeted by infiltrators from the right, or sometimes the far left, with resulting confusion, and ultimate demobilisation of actual and potential support.

by boots Fri Aug 24, 2007 01:05

the mark on the base of the boots is only on the brand sold to the military and police, the yellow mark is on the inside sole on the civilian make.

by Anthony Thu Aug 23, 2007 23:10

The main evidence that they were cops is that none of the other demonstrators knew them and when they were found out, they started moving towards the police lines and then very obviously pushed their way into the arms of the police so that they could be conveniently "arrested" / rescued before any of the demonstrators had a chance to remove their identical bandanas. The police later denied that the three had been arrested, taken into custody or charged with any offence: "No comment".

I'm sure next time, the Canadian police will be a bit more subtle.

by Could it be Thu Aug 23, 2007 21:57

That the activists and cops have the same taste in practical bovver boots for riots and such ???
Nothing more mysterious than that?

by Joe Thu Aug 23, 2007 21:10

This is a photo of the three cops being 'arrested'. As you'll see their footwear is identical to those of the riot cops 'arresting' them.

by Anthony Thu Aug 23, 2007 18:42

There is dome decent coverage of this story in Canadian mainstream media (CBC News) at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbgnyUCC7M

It features an interview with Doug Kirkland, a retired Ottowa policeman (in charge of security at demonstrations) who reckons that the odds are "pretty slim" that the three in masks are legitimate protesters and that such police activity is "stretching the bounds of proper police intelligence".

Further Coverage:
http://www.gnn.tv/articles/3256/Police_provocatuers_or_...vists
http://supercanuk.gnn.tv/blogs/24670/Police_provocateur...bello

Photographs - http://www.cupe.ca/gallery/montebello-monday?page=4

by ss Thu Aug 23, 2007 15:40

this is a great peice of video, worth taking notes on...like how the cops are wearing those bandanas so they can recognise each other......its funny aswell how they dive in behind the police line!
amazing footage!