Shell spin reaches a new low

by Kilcommon Resident Sun Jan 27, 2008 00:01

As usual shell trying to buy support, there is always 1 or 2 people that would sell their mothers for a few bob, it won't work just like their "grants" for college, only 2 from the Kilcommon recieved it because only 2 were looking it. AS USUAL SHELL CRAP!!!

by Maura Harrington - S2S; Davitt League Sun Jan 27, 2008 16:38

Today's Sunday Times (p.11, News) under the heading 'Wildlife mauling has Shell in retreat' reports that $hell has withdrawn/been asked to withdraw its sponsorship of the Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibition at London's Natural History Museum. This follows campaigns by FoE, WWF, objections by members of the public to the museum and monthly demos by Rising Tide.

This puts $hell's puny attempts at buying community consent in Kilcommon into context - their paid and pampered trips for the gullible to refineries that bear no relation to Ballinaboy as proposed; the scholarships, of which the majority went to the offspring of $hell supporters and employees; wining, dining and massaging egos ... none of this works.

It should be apparent to al but the most compromised (Burke/Bert/vested interests/peripheral priests etc) that the only connsideration for $hell is their bottom line - anything else is disposable.

by Martin Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:57

Kilcommon resident,

i presume you meant only 2 were looking fo it?

If so surely thats 100% promise fulfilled?

How is this crap?

by Stiana Fri Feb 22, 2008 01:10 deth47 at hotmail dot com

Martin

I presume YOU meant only two were looking FOR it? Nice intellectual argument.

Shell offers an incentive, like the college grants, or this community funding. When it is rejected or ignored, Shell can throw up its hands and say at least it tried. Even better when it only benefits pro-Shellers or the indifferent. It costs less money, and it is seen to be benefiting SOME people. After taking on itself the role of funding body for local victim-communities (or indeed national victim-communities!), it further cosies up to the government by playing the slick professional good samaritan, and playing their opponents as ignorant Luddite peasants. Sorry, should I stop here, or can you grasp why this is a ridiculously cynical ploy on Shell's part yet?

by katiem - none Sat Feb 23, 2008 01:53

Re the above, I don't quite understand the argument s2s are making. You allege that they are biased in favour of Shell supporters, but surely the grants are aimed at students studying courses suited to the gas/oil industry? Why the surprise at this? They are hardly going to grant aid marine biologists or environmentalists! Every industry sponsors courses in which they have an interest. If you are S2S, then you are hardly likely to apply in the first place! That is what is known as cutting off your nose to spite your face, and that is your God given right, but then you can't complain about who gets the grants. Even if a S2S supporter did apply, there are criteria to be fulfilled. Exam results do count. Also, you have to be studying a qualifying course, engineering being one of them. I cannot remember what other courses qualify. I do know that I would have applied, had my child chosen one of the approved courses.

by MacE Tue Feb 26, 2008 14:54

"They are hardly going to grant aid marine biologists or environmentalists!"

You said it.

by Fearbolg - S2S Tue Feb 26, 2008 19:04

Yeah, it's too easy when our would-be detractors make the arguments for us. Here's another example:

When the Pro-Gas Gombeen Society or whatever they're called at the moment decried the recent fire, they used the words ""difficult

economic circumstances" to describe the situation in Erris. These are the same men that will tell you that things were never better in

Erris thanks to Shell. In other words, they can't sustain an argument and their brains are in their arses. But that's what we've grown to

expect from 16% Paddy, (better known as "Shell's Teeth") and Bubonic Brendan.

by MacE Tue Feb 26, 2008 20:17

Wondering where's the 16% from? As for Cafferty, check this out, it's from the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources website. It's not dated, but seems to be from around about the time the Advantica whitewash was made;

A Chairde,
I wishh to make the following submissions in this matter.
I feel that the Minister should give the go-ahead for the pipeline as planned. Following report ordered by the Department and carried out by a very reputable firm, Advantica, I fel that this pipeline conforms to the highest standards and meets best international practice. The report recommended that pipeline pressure be reduced from 150 to 145 bar, and this, together with the other recommendations, if accepted by Shell and properly policed, will ensure there is no risk to anyone. It will be in fact no more dangerous than the ordinary city/urban gas pipeline. I also believe that this gas from Corrib field is a very clean gas.
This dispute has taken on a difficult and sometimes sinister line. A few locals from Rossport and Mr. Shine from Carrowteige have defied court orders and spent some time in jail. They may wish to see themselves as defending the rights of the small man in the land of Daviit and Boycott. I am also concerned at the intrusion of some politicians and parties, who were up to then, calling for the gas to brought on "either onshore or offshore" ( to quote one of them) have fuelled this matter and in fact organised meetings, posters, bus hire etc and speak of "kill zones" One or two local organs of media have also given biased unfair publicity to the protestors in a partisan way, often witout any regard for truth or fairness. I have heard one protestor compare the defending of land through which pipleline is to go to Mr. Padraig Nally who shot a traveller dead in another part of Mayo and is currently in jail !
As I came from a small West of Ireland farm myself, this right to land seems to be sacrosanct in the minds of many, often without any regard to the common good,and the farther west one goes, the more pronounced it becomes. I read where one farmer had his land divided into three for new Kinegad bye- pass, I can not but help think what would have happened were it in Rossport. I also read on Shell to Sea website, that they are calling for people to come to the area in the New Year, almost prepared for war - bring bolt cutters, night vision glasses etc. The law of the land has been disregarded here, personnel trying to get on site to carry out emergency work have been refused entry by protestors, and some have been falsely imprisoned on the site in fact. Some small contractors had their machinery locked on site and could not get it out for some time due to the actrivities of the blockaders outside. I wonder where is the rule of law in the matter, or where will it be in the future. When the matter is clarified , I would hope the law of the land will be enforced. The vast majority of the people in the area want the project to go ahead, but a lot are constrained from commenting out of fear.Many have come home, got work, out of which they now are, while well heeled protestors and those on pensions carry on the campaign !
I have no doubt but that Industry and connection to towns in the area will follow in due course. This area is starved of industy and jobs. What type of message will be sent out if the project is aborted. Foreign companies on whom we depend so much will be scared away -building industry will not last forever.
I urge that the pipeline go ahead as planned, and that the law be enforced. I do not represent or group or organisation. I am not currently in work.
Is Mise,
Brendan Cafferty

"I am not currently in work." A plea for some PEGG shillings? Is this how he ended up with his current secretarial work? I wonder who checks his spelling nowadays?

by Maura Harrington - S2S; Davitt League Wed Mar 26, 2008 20:12

An exclusive front page article by Frances Toner in this week's Connaught Telegraph makes interesting reading.

The article, headed 'Landslide group on the rocks' reports that the Dooncarton Landslide Committee has been disbanded following the unilateral decision of its chairperson, Gerard McDonnell, to apply for $hell largesse without committee consent.

McDonnell is quoted saying 'This application for funding was not put to the committee because I knew there was no point'.

McDonnell is $hell's bagman in the Parish of Kilcommon (he also carries the rather grandiose but utterly redundant titles of member of the Environmental Monitoring Group and Project Monitoring Committee - tick-box stuff set up to supposedly 'protect' the bogtrotters, both EMG and PMC expenses paid by $hell).

Will add link to Connaught Telegraph article; it appears that one must register to access article.

by rnli Wed Mar 26, 2008 22:24

"(he also carries the rather grandiose but utterly redundant titles of member of the Environmental Monitoring Group and Project Monitoring Committee - tick-box stuff set up to supposedly 'protect' the bogtrotters, both EMG and PMC expenses paid by $hell)."

maura did you clear that statment with Mr diver?
mr diver has worked trojanly on the emg for several years, and has ensured that shell dosent get away with ruining our envoirment.
maybe you should takeback that accusation.

by Maura Harrington - S2S; Davitt League Wed Mar 26, 2008 23:19

applicable to McDonnell.

If the poster purports to defend somebody one would expect that the person's name is spelt correctly.

And an t-Uasal Ó Duibhir is not, nor ever has been a bagman for $hell ... McDonnell is.

by Joe Thu Mar 27, 2008 07:58

IF Ó Duibhir is not, nor ever has been a bagman for $hell, what is he doing taking $hells $hilling?
He has sat on this joke of an EMG for years, and never had any problem accepting money from $hell for doing so.
There is no difference between him and McDonnell!

by Maura Harrington - S2S; Davitt League Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:18

Anybody who doesn't recognise the bona fides od Eamon Ó Duibhir and the complete absence of same in McDonnell is either not from the area or, if local, belongs to $hell.

I repeat, McDonell is $hell's bagman.

I do not anticipate any legal missives from McDonnell with regard to the above because legal proceedings provide for discovery ...

by Maura Harrington - S2S; Davitt League Thu Mar 27, 2008 13:17

Either $hell's legals are busy for McDonnell or the trolls can find nothing to spin when faced with what qualifies as bribery/corruption per $hell's own stated 'principles'.

by Fearbolg - S2S Thu Mar 27, 2008 14:47

McDonnell (and Shell) have serious egg on their faces today after the headline in the Connaught Telegraph (see the thread elsewhere

on here entitled 'Innovative Funding'). I saw him in Belmullet today and he looks like a man that picked up 50 cents and lost a fiver.