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category international | eu | opinion/analysis author Sunday June 22, 2008 18:05author by paul o tooleauthor email pauljotoole at eircom dot net Report this post to the editors

The governments 'eventual response' will respect the outcome of the election

Interviewed live on radio on the morning of the count, Dick Roche was asked a question,(at my prompt I might say, after Patricia Mckenna was asked the question, I thought it only fair that Mr Roche be asked the same) ..... ...if he would accept the result of the election or will there be a lisbon-II election if this one fails.
Roche answewed ..... 'the will of the people would have to be respected'....or something similar.

In todays Sunday Times....
.......'Dick Roche,the European Affairs minister, yesterday confirmed that Cowen and Martin will lead an analyss of the no vote and promised that the government's... 'eventual response'.... will respect the outcome of the referendum.

Before the result there was going to be respect, now it seems there will be respect... 'eventually'.

There is no reason for anyone to respect this government even if you voted for them, given their track record on accepting the will of the people. If anyone labours under the illusion that any of them care about the citizenry of this country they should remove their rose tinted glasses now.
They dont listen to paitents screaming for services while they linger on trolleys.....they do listen to the private investors willing to profit from the suffering of Ielands most vunerable people
They dont listen to the old people suffering in unregulated nursing homes.....they listen to investors.
They dont listen to parents of children in need of special needs.......
They dont listen to the school teachers reporting of roofs falling in in rat infested classrooms....
They dont listen to residents besieged by crime in their own neighbourhoods...
They dont listen to archaeoligists speaking out against the destruction of our ancient past in Tara.....
They dont listen to 100,000 anti war protestors against the use of Shannon for murder and torture....

.....why should we expect them to listen to us now?...

author by Timpublication date Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:51author address author phone Report this post to the editors

They're a stubborn lot, and their friends in the media will keep up the drivel, rather than move on as most of the country has.
Today on Limerick Live 95FM, they had the most novel reason for discussing the Lisbon Treaty 12 days after the vote.
I tuned in to hear Ed Myers say that he had been away during the referendum, and only found out this morning that Ireland voted no! (what a journalist eh?)
So he had on some guy to splutter on that people didn't understand the treaty, and were worried about abortion and the EU army, and that the Yes side hadn't got their act together, cos people were picking unfairly on Bertie, leaving Cowen little time to push the Treaty while the NO side were out talking to people. The caller said he hadn't voted because he didn't understand it, and people who didn't understand it shouldn't have voted at all.
Ed Myers even had the gall to waste more air time with questions like, "was it close?", "what was the margin like?"
To which his caller said it was "only 110,000".

How contrived is that, even for Ed Myers, to pretend like his researchers couldn't have provided him with that info.
He spoonfed the guy suggestions for the motives of the No side, all of them negative reasons, being scared or misinformed, or giving the two fingers to the government. He didn't suggest a single valid reason to vote No, and his guest was not likely to either, so Myers wasn't playing devil's advocate on the issue.

I'm sure that other radio stations are still flogging this dead horse in the hope of sowing seeds of doubt in people who chose their own judgment over the advice of professional liars in the Dail.

As for a FF survey one the outcome, I wouldn't trust any report from the government on why people voted no.
They would twist the results to try give justification for a re-run i.e. people voted NO for the WRONG reasons, e.g. they simply didn't understand it, so we'll do a better explanation next time.

author by krossie - wsm personal capacitypublication date Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:45author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Think the Sunday Tribune's head line summed up the E U heads "respect" for our vote
(and indeed the opinions of most of its citizens in opinion poll after opinion poll)


"An Taoiseach, Brian Cowen, requests the pleasure of your company at a polling station near you in Spring 2009 to vote YES...or leave the EU"


An excellent analysis of the vote and the campaigns by Chekov Feeny published by the Irish Left Review is to be found below...

Related Link: http://www.irishleftreview.org/2008/06/20/lisbon-treaty-campaign-ireland-review/
 
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