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Save All Jobs at Dell
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worker & community struggles and protests |
press release
Tuesday January 13, 2009 11:09 by Socialist Party - SP info at socialistparty dot net 0868064801
Put Workers Livelihoods Before Super Profits “ This is not about a company that's in trouble. This is about greed, corporate greed. They're going to Poland because apparently they can make an extra 3%” SOCIALIST PARTY SAYS:
by Jim Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:51
Are you seriously suggesting the Irish government should be running the Dell plant in Limerick?
by frank Tue Jan 13, 2009 13:58
I agree that Dell is shameless, and Fianna Fail not blameless, but there's little point ranting on about it, pretending to offer a solution, and not showing one.
by Member sparty Tue Jan 13, 2009 15:56
No Pat oHara not scales, computers! You and the others who have derided the Socialist Party's proposals regarding how to save the jobs at Dell please put forward a credible alternative to 1,900 Dell workers joining the dole and the potential other 12 - 13k workers in the Mid-west region who may join them due to Dell's decision.
by Pat Ohara. Tue Jan 13, 2009 16:08
I am a computer engineer who will be out of work next May-June.
by Member sparty Tue Jan 13, 2009 16:49
The Socialist Party has never said that the government should step in and run Dell. The Socialist Party is saying that the government should nationalise the Dell operations in Ireland and that the workforce should run the operation. Who do you think does that currently? Michael Dell? No - the Irish Dell workforce already run the whole operation, and they should continue to do so but with it being a nationalised company.
by Whoa there.... Tue Jan 13, 2009 16:50
Member sparty
by JollyRedGiant - Socialist Party / CWI Tue Jan 13, 2009 18:12
Pat said
by Mr Man Tue Jan 13, 2009 18:48
"Like a vulture, having ripped profit out of its workers in Limerick, Dell now wants to go exploit workers elsewhere."
by AlmostRedundantBrian Wed Jan 14, 2009 00:42
As one of those affected, I have nothing but scorn for Dell, who are chucking us out, even though they're making a profit.
by Pat Ohara. Wed Jan 14, 2009 08:18
Some of you guys seem to think that Dell is Irish.
by Member sparty Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:48
Pat that is capitalism only if you lie down and accept it and do nothing to fight back. Workers can organise and take on the employers and defeat them if determined enough.
by Sympathetic but practical Wed Jan 14, 2009 13:02
The above is a lot of pie in the sky or hot air.
by ex IBM Wed Jan 14, 2009 14:56
I suspect the party comrade is in the full flush of their revolutionary youth... this naive SP proposal wont ever float for a variety of reasons previously mentioned above. Just because people are "workers" this doesn't automatically make them left wing - unless I'm missing out on the slew of Socialist Party TDs and Councillors in the Limerick region? Aside from not having any capital to purchase the necessary components (and the existing suppliers wouldnt dare ship to the lone renegade factory, because Dell wouldnt use them in their other plants in the future) the workers would have to rebrand everything, get a marketing campaign going for their new brand, etc etc.
by Member sparty Wed Jan 14, 2009 15:40
To "Sympathetic but practical" and "ex IBM" forget practicality, forget pessimism, and for once try to break out of the straitjacket of conditioning that your minds have been encased in.
by Pat Ohara Wed Jan 14, 2009 16:30
Capitalism has died.
by Whoa there again Wed Jan 14, 2009 16:32
Your defeatism is shameful.
by SP online - SP/CWI Mon Jan 19, 2009 13:44
Dell ... Our chance to halt greed
by postworker Tue Jan 20, 2009 19:30
Dell doesn't owe ireland or Limerick anything. It sells computers. If they cost more to make here than rival computers made in Poland or the Far East, no one will buy them. If no one buys them, Dell doesn't make a profit and eventually goes bust. If Dell goes bust, everyone in Dell loses their jobs.
by Gregor Kerr - WSM - 1st May - pers. cap. Tue Jan 20, 2009 20:50
Bear these two figures in mind when you're wondering about Dell's motives
by postworker Tue Jan 20, 2009 22:06
Great opportunity then for the WSM to make a fortune to fund the workers revolution by starting up a replacement computer manufacturing operation in Limerick. I mean, they can't fail to make a huge profit. Can they?
by Member Sparty Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:52
Postman it seems that you are only interested in abusing people. Clear and credible arguments in favour of the nationalisation of Dell have been put forward here.
by Andrei Thu Jan 29, 2009 14:42
He-he, welcome to the harsh reality of capitalism without the USSR to balance it.
by JinTX-USA Wed Feb 04, 2009 05:52
I keep reading about "GREED"
by John O'Kennedy Wed Feb 04, 2009 08:11
Capitalism without the USSR to balance it ???? |
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