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Third level fees should be re-introduced.

category national | education | opinion/analysis author Saturday February 07, 2009 01:13author by Conor.M - S.E.E.Dauthor email liberalconormurphy at ymail dot com Report this post to the editors

Third level fees should be re-introduced.

I was a member of FEE (free education for everyone) until very recently and I'm not against them, but I do disagree with them to a certain extent. It is certainly a tricky situation because the re-introduction of fees for the rich and not the poor, lies in trust. I dont 'trust' Fianna Fail but this is our government and you deserve the government you vote for. I strongly believe that fees should be introduced for the rich. When the students marched on wednesday the only people who were really happy were the wealthy.

More students from Dublin's disadvantaged areas are proceeding to third level, including myself, but their numbers remain relatively low according to the higher education authority (HEA). The study also finds that that the number of 17-19 year-olds in Dublin going on to third level is the second-lowest among the 26 counties. Only 45% of Dublin school-leavers proceed to college, compared to over 75% in Leitrim.

Awkward questions need to be asked and this is not happening! Isn't there something dysfunctional about a society where there are such vast extremes of poverty and wealth? And shouldn't this be the prime focus of the left-wing parties? The whole point of left-wing politics is to identify inequalities. But our political left, including Eamon Gilmore, speak in generalities about inequality but avoid how inequality is to be addressed comprehensively.

I believe our top statutory taxes (high earners) need to be dramatically hiked (considering we pay lower taxes than Denmark, Sweden, Netherlands, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Austria & Slovenia) and it is no coincidence the top countries on that list have the lowest child poverty rate and some of the best standards of living in the world. With our unbelievable excess in wealth, why is our country so dysfunctional? It may have something to do with the fact the left is so fragmented, and it could have something to do with our political parties playing the, 'I'll have lower taxes than them' game.

My point is, Our taxes should be slightly increased in general, and the rich should have to pay back what they took from society, through high taxes and the re-introduction of fees for the rich third level students who will have no problem paying. This is not a comprehensive report but I do think people need the relevant information before a campaign is launched. The youth in Ireland need to be radicalized, and we need solid facts and a good argument.

THIS IS THE RATES OF ADMISSION BY POSTAL DISTRICT FOR DUBLIN'S 17-19 YEAR OLDS:
D14.............79%
D18.............73%
D6...............71%
D3...............61%
D16.............61%
D4, D15......49%
D9................47%
D5, D13......39%
D24.............36%
D12..............32%
D8................29%
D2, D7.........28%
D11..............27%
D1................20%
D22..............19%
D20..............16%
D17..............12%
D10..............10%

I hope this begins a REAL debate on the fee issue, we need to stand together and stop the government from walking all over us. The last thing we need to do is try to stop the government from finally taking money back from the wealthy in Ireland. Moreover, medical cards should NOT be available to all. Plenty of millionaires, and the wealthy in general should have to pay. (We also pay through taxes, the building of private hospitals and pay private doctors, where is the argument to change this?)

I am open to alternative suggestions but, as it stands, i firmly believe the solution to our problems lies in the organisation of the young and radical, as well as workers and students etc. We need to resist the government threatening nature and rise up to show our government we will not be used as scapegoats... this is the real issue. Fighting fees, in my opinion, is a waste of time.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Global Week of Action against the commercialisation of education.     Conor.M    Sat Feb 07, 2009 01:24 
   fees     poor student    Sat Feb 07, 2009 13:59 
   yes to fees     Sara    Sat Feb 07, 2009 14:14 
   What a rambling, silly piece.     Mark C    Sat Feb 07, 2009 15:20 
   Free Education for all     Blacbloc    Sat Feb 07, 2009 15:29 
   Rambling, silly piece?     Conor. M    Sat Feb 07, 2009 16:26 
   Mark......     Conor. M    Sat Feb 07, 2009 16:30 
   @Conor     Mark C    Sat Feb 07, 2009 21:08 
   cherish all the children of the nation equally     attlee    Sun Feb 08, 2009 01:07 
 10   INTRODUCE FEES FOR THE RICH!     Conor. M    Sun Feb 08, 2009 13:50 
 11   breadline     attlee    Sun Feb 08, 2009 14:08 
 12   One More Childish Comment     Mark C    Sun Feb 08, 2009 14:30 
 13   ......     Conor.M    Sun Feb 08, 2009 23:38 
 14   S.E.E.D.     Curious    Mon Feb 09, 2009 00:47 
 15   Refreshing to see a post like this     ed galligan    Mon Feb 09, 2009 01:34 
 16   S.E.E.D.     Mark C    Mon Feb 09, 2009 08:19 
 17   cop on     Conor.M    Mon Feb 09, 2009 19:56 
 18   whats seed     Conor.M    Mon Feb 09, 2009 20:11 
 19   yes, no????     Amy--Student    Mon Feb 09, 2009 20:22 
 20   Trust the government     ed galligan    Mon Feb 09, 2009 21:24 
 21   no fees?     Brian    Mon Feb 09, 2009 23:05 
 22   ''fees fees fees''     Peter Carrol    Mon Feb 09, 2009 23:34 
 23   Mark     Peter Carrol    Mon Feb 09, 2009 23:44 
 24   My Polite Response     Mark C    Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:44 
 25   short & long-term solution.     Tommy    Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:14 
 26   Why fees aren’t the answer to inequality of access to third level     Paul Murphy    Tue Feb 10, 2009 13:57 
 27   student body realisation     Catherine    Tue Feb 10, 2009 13:59 
 28   FEE.     Jay    Tue Feb 10, 2009 14:24 
 29   yes to fees     Conor. M    Tue Feb 10, 2009 14:38 
 30   Charging the rich=charging the poor apparently     Ed Galligan    Tue Feb 10, 2009 15:39 
 31   C Murphy...one to watch..     Peter K    Tue Feb 10, 2009 15:41 
 32   this and that     Ed Galligan    Tue Feb 10, 2009 17:46 
 33   C Murphy...one to watch.. IM CAUGHT OUT     Conor. M    Wed Feb 11, 2009 15:55 
 34   Gradual tax for rich, shut down private schools and don't introduce fees.     Dublin student    Wed Feb 11, 2009 19:42 
 35   Dublin student.....     Conor. M    Wed Feb 11, 2009 20:24 
 36   reply     Dublin student    Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:47 
 37   "Non-adjacent" students     Ed Galligan    Thu Feb 12, 2009 14:31 
 38   Ed Galligan....     Conor.M    Thu Feb 12, 2009 21:53 
 39   Thanks     Ed Galligan    Thu Feb 12, 2009 23:30 
 40   free fees for all     tony    Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:34 
 41   Focus on money     Ed Galligan    Mon Feb 16, 2009 19:18 
 42   @Ed     Mark C    Mon Feb 16, 2009 22:38 
 43   Pay your way!     Paddy    Tue Feb 17, 2009 22:35 
 44   Third level fees should be introduced     Conor.M    Thu Mar 05, 2009 02:17 
 45   Radical Conservatives     Mark C    Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:39 
 46   Once you are over eighteen you are no longer a child.     vz    Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:50 
 47   im an environmentalist, activist, feminist and a neo-liberal?     Conor.M    Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:42 
 48   Fees for the Rich     Paddy    Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:56 
 49   children?     vn    Thu Mar 05, 2009 13:02 
 50   Conor, Paddy, et al     Mark C    Thu Mar 05, 2009 14:12 
 51   evidence please     Gaz B -(A)-    Thu Mar 05, 2009 14:22 
 52   Logic hard to find     Topper    Thu Mar 05, 2009 15:12 
 53   my 2c worth......     DumbAss    Thu Mar 05, 2009 21:59 
 54   blah     blah    Thu Mar 05, 2009 22:22 
 55   to fee, or not to fee     ucd student    Fri Mar 06, 2009 00:56 
 56   Neo-liberalism? Are you serious?     Ed Galligan    Fri Mar 06, 2009 02:13 
 57   Sometimes people will disagree with your opinions - such is life     Topper    Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:04 
 58   bunk     vn    Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:10 
 59   Rich 18 year olds     Ed Galligan    Fri Mar 06, 2009 21:06 
 60   autonomy     vn    Fri Mar 06, 2009 23:59 
 61   Child?     Ed Galligan    Sat Mar 07, 2009 01:16 
 62   no tax?     Tom    Sun Mar 08, 2009 14:17 


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