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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3erudite type says: "To many others, Christian and Muslim alike their Angel is none other than Satan (and / or) Lucifer."
what kind of mumbo-jumbo is this irrelevant (provocative?) phrase when discussing the Yazidis.
get your theology sorted out. your statement is pure fiction. there is nothing in the Bible or the Koran to back up this.
dictionary definition of "erudite" = educated, knowledgeable; wise.
stick to your theme about the situation of the Yazidis without making uneducated, theologically-illiterate misrepresentations about Muslims & Christians.
This newstory accompanied the suspension of the internet social network service "Facebook" in Iran. It has now been restored.
Both Muslims and Christians have considered and described the Yazidi as devil worshippers throughout history attested by references to them in western literature as I outlined above which could only have been traced to contemporary encyclopedia descriptions & if you understand Jewish, Christian or Muslim folkloristic creation myths (Which few believers argue are literary) then you easily understand why the Yazadi got the label.
You could go to the website "Christians in Iraq" http://www.christiansofiraq.com/yazidifindpeace.html
Most recently in the autobiography of Kayla Williams of the US Army intelligence unit of the 101st Airborne Division in Iraq during 2003 and 2004. published in 2005 The Yezidis were Kurdish-speaking, but did not consider themselves Kurds, and expressed to Williams a fondness for America and Israel. She was able to learn only a little about the nature of their religion: she thought it very ancient, and concerned with angels. She describes a mountain-top Yezidi shrine as "a small rock building with objects dangling from the ceiling", and alcoves for the placement of offerings. She reports that local Muslims considered the Yezidis to be devil worshippers.
As for theological schatology & my erudite references to Abrahamin folklore of "Satan &/or Lucifer" :-
The Yazidi believe God first created Tawuse Melek (the peacock angel) from his own illumination (Ronahi ) and the other six archangels were created later. God ordered Tawuse Melek not to bow to other beings. Then God created the other archangels and ordered them to bring him dust (Ax) from the Earth (Erd) and build the body of Adam. Then God gave life to Adam from his own breath and instructed all archangels to bow to Adam. The archangels obeyed except for Tawuse Melek. In answer to God, Tawuse Melek replied, "How can I submit to another being! I am from your illumination while Adam is made of dust." Then God praised him and made him the leader of all angels and his deputy on the Earth..
The Islamic Shaytan (for their theology holds no Lucifer but does include the Masih ad-Dajjal) refused to bow to Adam at God's command, though in this case it is seen as being a sign of Shaytan's sinful pride that atttribute given throughout human artistic representation to the peacock.
I doubt either an atheist fighting Irish blasphemy laws or a fundamentalist christian would really be up to scratch on the common and divergent ground of Satan, Shaytan, Lucifer, Masih ad-Dajjal and the Yazidi nor even understand that Nestorian christianity so far removed (By schism) from any western bible basher's belief system which is the dominant christian belief system of Assyria (Kurdistan, Iraq & Iran) etc.
but there is always wikipedia
on Islamic folklore :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dajjal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaitan
on Christian & Abrahamic folklore :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan#Yazidism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer
on the poor maligned people themselves :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi
BBC on the suspension and return of Facebook :-
Nothing new about that.
The Iranians call the USA “The Great Satan”.
Ian Paisley called the Pope the “Antichrist” (=the Devil Incarnate.) in the European Parliament.
Religions in general seem to require that those who do not believe what they believe are acting on the Devil’s orders.
That is why the Penal Laws were enacted in Ireland...to keep Catholics, the Devil's Agents, down.
“Religion is The Opium of the People” –Karl Marx.
Wise words.