Lisbon - Same Treaty - Same Answer - No

by MichaelY - NO to Lisbon Campiagn Mon Aug 17, 2009 14:15

We are relaunching the No to Lisbon Campaign (formerly CAEUC) tomorrow Tuesday August 18th with an 11.00 Press Conference in the UNITE Hall 55-56 Middle Abbey Street and an 19.30 Public Meeting in Liberty Hall.

Speakers would include our MEP Joe Higgins, SF Vice President Mary Lou McDonald, UNITE Regional Secretary Jimmy Kelly and Bob Crowe General Secretary of the Rail, Maritime and Transport Union.

Councillor Brid Smith of UNITE and People Before Profit will chair.

Leaflets will also be available for those who want to start door-to-door canvassing.

See you there

by NoAgain - The Anti-Organisation. Sun Aug 16, 2009 09:40

Not only is the Lisbon Treaty the Same Treaty that should again be rejected for the same reasons - but now it is outmoded, outdated and irrelevant in the current Economic Recession.

It offers no hope to Ireland or to anywhere else because it was drawn up some years ago before the Recession was even suspected, and not an idea, not a single sentence, not even a word has been changed to take into account our changed world, our depressed Europe, our Desperate Ireland.

It contains nothing new, it offers no hope, it offers no plans, nothing at all to Ireland , to any other European State or to the Third World.

If this Lisbon Treaty, the same Treaty that we rejected already, is all that the E.U. has to offer, then God help us all !

A NO vote will send a direct message to the E.U. to quit throwing old outmoded and outdated things of the past like the Lisbon Treaty at us, which offer no solutions at all to our present Recession , a NO vote will be a signal to the E.U. to GET REAL: and start to tackle this recession at its roots where it started - amongst the speculators and bankers, a NO Vote will be a message that we will not stand for trillions being spent to bail out bankers, developers and speculators, that the people of Ireland and Europe have had enough of them all !

by rongal Sat Aug 15, 2009 14:24

The Guardian wouldn’t include all the toffee-nosed vowels in their report if they were interviewing someone like London’s mayor Boris Johnston , would they? But whenever people from working class backgrounds are interviewed by papers like the Guardian , direct speech is recorded with all the “yeahs” and “nahs” and bad grammar included .

“The Times ran an editorial stating that Crow was class obsessed, and he says for once it was correct. "Yeah, spot on. Dead right they was on that. I am obsessed with workers. I'm not obsessed with bosses….”

At the Guardian they like their workers leaders to look and talk like thuggish east-end gangsters before they promote them - like Simon Hattenstone promotes Crow and his “fascinating politics” in the interview . Why John Meehan should be endorsing the presence of this Stalinist Alf Garnett soundalike at Liberty Hall is beyond me. Stands to reason dunnit ? It’s cos e’s the authentic voice of British working class militancy ,gawd bless ‘im .

Really, here’s why the Guardian is promoting Crow in my opinion . This part of the interview contains the message that the liberal wing of the British establishment , as represented by the Guardian ,no less than the not so liberal wing , needs to put across as our world moves towards war .

“I ask him why nothing seems to scare him. He reaches into a cupboard and brings out his father's war record. "Three medals he got. He was a PE instructor in the army. He went all over the world. He was unemployed in 1939, God's honest truth, and war broke out and my dad said to my grandad, 'I'm not signing up for the army, Hitler can come over here as far as I'm concerned, I ain't got a job, I ain't got a house, why should I fight for this country, I've got nothing to fight for,' and my granddad, who was a Fusilier, said: 'You're going in the army,' took him down, and signed him up. He didn't want to come out in the end. He loved it.”

by John Meehan - www.sayno.ie Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:13

The meeting now starts 30 minutes earlier at 7.30pm - apologies for any confusion.

by John Meehan - No to Lisbon Campaign (CAEUC) www.sayno.ie Sun Aug 09, 2009 16:03

Chairperson :

Brid Smith (Dublin City Councillor, People Before Profit)

Speakers :

Jimmy Kelly, Regional Secretary, UNITE
Frank keoghan, People's Movement