Indymedia UC and Community WiFi

by ghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñ Wed May 18, 2005 14:06

But hardly a model for European or American (south or central) or Arabic indymedia practise or development.
Indymedia grew out of anti-globalisation protests and the building of new networks between them. Many on this side of the Atlantic make the mistake of thinking that just because the project began on US servers it is a US project. It isn't.
The most important indymedia collectives have always been those in Central and South America, most of the philosophy of the movement has come from the success of the neoZapatistas in Mexico and Chiapas and the idea of buying a big post office really never got to assembly suggestion there. This is something that most english speakers ought reflect on. The first language of our movement is indeed latin american spanish. And thereafter arguably brazilian portuguese where today the landless movement, (no land, no farms, no post offices) met et again with armed police trying to frustrate their aims.
The most important indymedia collectives in the future are "physically" active in arabic speaking countries, and whereas it's nice to see indymedia activists get on with their "post Seattle" careers in "alternative media" in the USA, I (may of my colleagues) take no inspiration in it, and I'd hope that few Irish acitivists would either. The attempt to place a "centre" on this network is foolhardy and runs counter to the principles and sacrifices which are the daily strength and woe of this movement. & really only serve the purpose of aggrandisement and US-centricism which invariably serves us little whatever its intention.

okupe tu t@mbién.

by redjade Wed May 18, 2005 15:23

'The attempt to place a "centre" on this network is foolhardy and runs counter to the principles and sacrifices which are the daily strength and woe of this movement. & really only serve the purpose of aggrandisement and US-centricism which invariably serves us little whatever its intention.'
shheesh!
Where does this anger come from?!

Mr ghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñghnñ, certainly you know that each IMC is also autonomous and can pretty much do whatever it likes - as long as they work within IMC principles.
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FrequentlyAskedQuestionEn

A while back some from the Urbana Champaign IMC blew through Dublin and talked with IMCers here - one comment that struck me from one them was that *most* of what they do is offline - the website is almost secondary to the real world media making projects. Urbana Champaign are more rooted in their community than most Indymedias - and this is an accomplishment that I am very jealous of.

If they can do it better in an Old Post Office - then more power to them.

by dunk Wed May 18, 2005 19:25 fuspey at yahoo dot co dot uk

but could become more, looking forward to the summer lads: streets, gardens, airwaves, wanders, films, walls, ground, murals, printflares, interviews, flyers, croker....
any further with a projector?
could really put that to good use

previous stuff:
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=68510#comment107282
further imc developments- UC-IMC Buys Post Office

a cross between a newspaper office, a public square and a speakeasy)
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=69247&condense_comments=false#comment105331

imc-ie is/ should be more than a website
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=68510#comment100759

development of imc-ie
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=62252&search_text=development%20of%20indymedia

dublin independant media centre
april 23- may 3 2004
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=64562
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=64293

by dunk Wed May 18, 2005 19:39

and link to last attempt to further offline imc-ie world
indymedia gathering @ seoidíns
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=69451

by Anthony Sun May 22, 2005 13:00

Urbana Champaign have opened up their newly acquired premises for viewing by the public before they fully move in and start using the facilities.

by redjade Sun May 22, 2005 16:02

1. Call for less, not more, media consolidation:
2. Build Community Broadband:
3. Bring Back the Fairness Doctrine:
4. Open Up the Cable TV Monopoly:
5. Restore Public Airwaves to the Public:
6. Claim Your Right to Information and Culture:
7. Make Public Broadcasting Truly Public:
8. Choose Open-Source Software Solutions:
9. Keep Broadband Open:
10. Support Alternative Media:

more at
http://yesmagazine.org/article.asp?ID=1186

by dunk Mon May 23, 2005 19:27

imc-uc function so well because they have such a non web base presence, the virtual merely backs up their real world process,
it would be good if we could have a lot more real world things going on here in dublin, ireland, are there plans for anything?

by iosaf Mon Jun 27, 2005 18:17

And now UC IMC have issued a feature length apology and "clarification". However the threats of action to remove them from the network remain. In the rush to american media space, professional acitivists who chose to abuse the indymedia global collective mis-represented both themselves and others.
As said above, the orginal language of this global collective is probably spanish. Many of the imc's began life as corners of interest in other sites. The history of European imcs has been as complex and difficult, and has few parallels with US groups. The most important indymedia groups are those now forming in the arabic and african zones.
No US based imc has ever been so important in either demographic readership / horizontal media pick-up or activist creativity, yet many have attempted to abuse the "logo" and "branding" to further individual careers.

The Apology is to be read here:-

http://www.ucimc.org/feature/display/52966/index.php

by iosaf - (slight return) Mon Jun 27, 2005 21:21

"some of us are galicians".
"a few are very proud"
"hardly anyone of us is a champagne swilling urbanite with real estate stock"

The Apology is to be read here:-

http://www.ucimc.org/feature/display/52966/index.php