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Thursday December 14, 2006 23:01
by Saoirse - Ógra Shinn Féin
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21Yes were all moving forward now, time to draw a line under the past. I know there is hurt and victims on both side but we must move on. The release of prisoners is a vital part of that.
err hold on though that doesn't apply to any of "our" victims, we want a full and open enquiry to hold some to account!!
I fully agree with Sinn Fien on this one all prisoners should be released.
Why exactly should all Republican prisoners be released?
It's a bloody mockery that any of these low-life scum should be released. Is it right that the likes of Dessie O'Hare or Michael Stone (Stormont antics notwithstanding) are out?
No chance.
Leave 'em in there.
Hardly appropiate to compare Dessie O'Hare to Michael Stone, Dessie O'Hare never went into a graveyard to murder innocent civilians in cold blood.
There is no reason why terrorist prisioners should get early release.
The killers of Garda Mc Cabe for instance.
1) Committed their crimes AFTER the "ceasefires"
2) Murdered an IRISH police officer (Dont give me that "manslaughter" crap)
3) Were robbing a post office
So even going by Shinner (ahem) "logic" there is no justification why they should qualify for early release any more than anyone else who robs a post office and murders a policeman but doesnt happen to be a member of a terrorist organisation.
As for Michael Stone while I dont remember him kidnapping torturing and mutilating anyone I understand that he was involved in the murder of a number of people who were niether members or supporters of Sinn Fein/IRA and he was a member of a terrorist criminal organisation so theres no reason why he shouldnt be behind bars either.
Had a certain Mr Adolf H served his full prison term for the Munich Putsch (which included among other things robbing a bank and killing two policemen) instead of being released after only eight months 20th Century European history might have been a lot less blood spattered !
But the Nazis were just common street thugs who were let out of prison early, dressed up in suits (or military uniforms which were still in fashion back then) and allowed into Government to dismantle the democratic process
Sound familliar ?
There is no reason why terrorist prisoners should get early release.
The killers of Garda Mc Cabe for instance.
1) Committed their crimes AFTER the "ceasefires"
2) Murdered an IRISH police officer (Don’t give me that "manslaughter" crap)
3) Were robbing a post office
So even going by Shinner (ahem) "logic" there is no justification why they should qualify for early release any more than anyone else who robs a post office and murders a policeman but doesn’t happen to be a member of a terrorist organisation.
As for Michael Stone while I don’t remember him kidnapping torturing and mutilating anyone I understand that he was involved in the murder of a number of people who were neither members or supporters of Sinn Fein/IRA and he was a member of a terrorist criminal organisation so there’s no reason why he shouldn’t be behind bars either.
Had a certain Mr Adolf H served his full prison term for the Munich Putsch (which included among other things robbing a bank and killing two policemen) instead of being released after only eight months 20th Century European history might have been a lot less blood spattered !
But the Nazis were just common street thugs who were let out of prison early, dressed up in suits (or military uniforms which were still in fashion back then) and allowed into Government to dismantle the democratic process
Sound familiar ?
Perhaps OSF could define exactly who constitutes 'All IRA Prisoners'?
SF should have protested for the release of all republican prisoners. their defination of IRA will only include "their own" as they refuse tio recognise any other IRA preferring to refer to them (as the media do) as "dissidents".
They should be released .................. When The McCabe Faily are released from their pain and loss and the driver from the mental turmoil he has been through.
id just like to inform mike that the ira were not infact on ceasefire when the robbery in adare took place. a ceasefire ended in early 1996 and a second was called in july 1997. the adare robbery took place on the 7th of june 1996.
secondly as you are already aware none of the four men were convicted of murder. they were convicted of manslaughter - the unlawful and unintentional killing of a person.
people calling for the release of the castlerea four are not asking for justificiation of what they did, they are asking people to look at the facts and see that under the good friday agreement these men are entitled to early release.
Still a coward!
"The unlawful and unintentional killing of a person."
So your definition of UNINTENTIONAL involves walking up to someone and pulling a trigger at point blank range? Obviously the Sinn Fein/IRA definition of the word "unintentional" is radically different from what is understood by those of us living in the real world.
Your "are we on ceasefire this week lads?" argument hardly holds much water either given that Sinn Fein/IRA only ever claimed to be at "war" against the UK state and Adare hasn’t been in (or anywhere near) the UK since 1921.
What relevance is a "ceasefire" in a non-belligerent state?
It's you who needs to check the facts - in this case the GFA.
The relevant section states that prisoners convicted of a scheduled offence and allied to a paramilitary organisation that is maintaining its ceasefire are entitled to early release. The Castlerea Four meet these criteria.
No exceptions are made in the GFA for the other criteria you would like to impose on them.
And in reply to other comments - all republican prisoners means just that.
Whatever happened to the Saoirse campaign for Republican POWs? Oh..thats right...Sinn Fein closed it down. Why? because they could not control the families of the POWs involved. They wanted to remove the links between themselves and the POWs in order to attract the middle class votes.
Now, with the hullabulu over Sinn Fein joining the RUC in partnership , the politbureau has sought to pretent they still have a green side. Nobody will be fooled (except those party hacks outside the dail) and more importantly, in the coming months, Sinn Fein members, in RUC uniforms, will actually be imprisioning more republicans not releasing them.
The original UDR were recruited from the protestants , will the new recruits be called the new UDR, the Ulster Defence Republicans ?
No the campaign to free prisoners goes on as this story indicates, and also the national day of action which Ógra organised last Saturday:
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/80302
Fact - Sinn Féin achieved the release of the overwhelming majority of IRA prisoners and will continue to campaign until every last IRA prisoner is released.
But yeah sure let the last fool continue to blabber on, middle class yab a dab ......... selll out....... dable!
We're on the one road!
That Sinn Fein campaign to free Mickey McKevitt has been extremely high profile and very successful.
Catch yourself on OSF
Is there a compiled list anywhere currently of I.R.A or R/P.I.R.A prisoners who are incarcerated?
who´s asking?
I don't hear much from the sinn fein leadership on the issue of their political prisoners. They seem to be leaving the dirty work as they see it to ogra sinn fein.
Gaining the acceptance of the dup seems to be more important.
Well the DUP seem to be dictating $F policy lately.
Gerry Adams for an MBE and I think he would be very suitable for an NCO of the RUC