Adams Calls Árd Comhairle to Recommend Special Árd Fhéis

by Surprise surprise!! Thu Dec 28, 2006 18:26

Surprise surprise. I suppose all will be in favour then??

by Yvonne Thu Dec 28, 2006 19:51

The PSNI have been engaged in a massive PR campaign, from pandering to nazis/racists(scaremongering about eastern europeans) and embracing the gaelic loving holyland student offspring of the middle/upper irish/brit social classes.

Aren't these empty superficial gestures of the PSNI, signals that they really are changing into a progressive police force similar to the equally loved pigs on the mainland.

by David Thu Dec 28, 2006 21:00

Em.. What mainland would that be?

by magpie Fri Dec 29, 2006 16:59

the $inn Fein leaderships call for a vote on surporting the RUC/PSNI means they forfeit the right to call themselves REPUBLICIAN

by Bean DeValera Fri Dec 29, 2006 17:01

The special ArdComhairle meeting takes place today and the result was decided last weekend by Gerry. All participants spoke freely and totally agreed with Gerry's decision and thanked him for being their leader and a true democrat, worthy of a gold statue that constantly faces the sun.
Pictures of Gerry with Mary Loo will be issued soon and the date of the special Ard Fheis will be announced as soon as every member is given the script for that day.
Finally, SF said they understood why some people would be reluctant to support the RUC but the asked these people or as they will soon be called, these terrorist dissidents, to forward their addresses so that Superintendent Kelly and Inspector Storey may visit.
Best Wishes
Bean DeValera (my Eamonn was first to sell out)

by Dixon of Connolly House Fri Dec 29, 2006 17:17

Gerry said that he regrets Dennis and Scap not being here to share the glory for this historic move.
Incidentally, if the SDLP were the Stoop down low party are SF now the stoop further.
Careful how you go there.

by Ferry Fri Dec 29, 2006 20:02

Where did Mary Lou come from and how did she rise through the ranks so swiftly? Sure she didn't even know who Keiran [ Header ] Nugnet was. I think that she's a sign of Gerry's spring cleaning, to make $F acceptable to the middle classes and Unionism. Hyland and O'Rawe are just some of the discarded rubbish and I have no sympathy with them as they stayed through every compromise to the DUP until now.

$F want to be the new SDLP acceptable in the hallowed halls of Stormont, Westminster and the White house.

by AN Fri Dec 29, 2006 21:46

This news story is attracting a shed load of irate comments by dissillusioned republicans who for one reason or another can't bring themselves to deal with the current situation, and seek solace in memories of the conflict, which is of course fair enough.

My problem is that pouring ire on the current leadership doesn't make any of them look good, and makes this site look like a badly moderated version of boards.ie.

Referring to Mary Lou McDonald as "Mary Loo"? Going on about "golden statues"? Grow up boys, and if you have news or serious peer review comment then this is the place. If not then get lost.

by Ferry Fri Dec 29, 2006 22:28

AN's drivel is an example wherein lays the problem with present day $F. Adams and his lackeys are trying to sweep the conflict and all of those who have given their lives under the carpet in order to become more acceptable to the DUP.
The current situation is that Paisley is determined to humiliate Republicans and have $F jumping through hoops in order to gain his favour. Adams is quite prepared to jump through these hoops if it means a share in running this partitioned part of Ireland. With $F standing with the begging bowl pleading to be accepted how are we to believe that they will ever lead Republicans into a United Ireland? I'm sure the DUP will have them jumping to his every demand if ever they succeed in getting into his Government.

$F are dead in the water as far as Republicanism is concerned and they will be the new SDLP in an Northern Ireland Government, eager to serve.

by NICE Fri Dec 29, 2006 22:40

Would any of the young Sinn Fein members or I’m mad dissident I am on here like to give a historically correct reason for the violence sine 1974? If you want to trot out the out arguments about it’s necessity I point you in the direction of The IRA and Armed Struggle (Cass Series on Political Violence)by Rogelio Alonso released this month. Stop fooling yourself about what really happened kids

by reabhloid dearg Sat Dec 30, 2006 08:55

There is no doubt this motion will be passed. It's not the first time the membership has been asked to accept a document that hasn't been popular, as was the case a few years back in north Belfast, those who didn't accept one particular document were told to either accept it or leave.

Adams, McGuinness, Kearney and Kelly among other prominent members of the Provisional Movement have spoke in favour of what's outlined in the above post. Who in Sinn Féin are leading the opposition to the Adams clique on the issue of policing? As far as I can see, no one.

If there genuinely is an end to political policing, will the PSNI fail to apprehend Republican or Socialist activists who either bear arms or are involved in civil disobedience?

by Sean O Sat Dec 30, 2006 17:03

I saw the Sinn fein leadership on TV last night and couldn't believe how crestfallen they looked, maybe not all is as cosy in the party as they make out? I also couldn't help but notice that the likes of Raymond McCartney, former Hunger Striker and all that, remain in the b-list of the party while the likes of the recently Republican Mary Lou are in the family album section. I bet that galls?

by Patrick Henry Sat Dec 30, 2006 17:49

The name Mc Cartney doesn't seem to go down well in Chuckie circles, it brings back memories of murder and cover up. Silly me, only the Brits do that.

by magpie Sat Dec 30, 2006 22:08

Could someone in the $inn Fein leadership explain the differance between the RUC and the PSNI?
Does the psni have the same powers as the old RUC ie P.T.A ?
Are they the first line of defence for the British State?
Do they take their orders from a British Government appointed Chief Constable?
IF the answer to all of the above is yes. THEN WHY are they calling for republicans to surpport such a police force???????????????

by Voice In Americay - Irish/American Republican Sat Dec 30, 2006 23:57

The comments of SDLP, Stoop Down Low and SF Stoop Further was hilarious.

Also, tragically true. Adams and the rest of the $hinners can no longer be deemed Republicans.

by Kevin. Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:35

Whats the big deal about subscribing to the rule of law and governance through politics? Declaring in favour of these principles doesent compromise the nationalists position one iota. If the PSNI compromises its neutrality in any way, nationalists will be in a far stronger position to hold it accountable, and correct it, by actively engauging with it. Thats why we have elected republican poilticians to the assembly. The PSNI is a tool which can be used to achieve the ultimate goal of a united Ireland.

by Ferry Sun Dec 31, 2006 16:16

Is Kevin for real or has he been brainwashed to such an extent by his leadership that he would believe in the little people if he were told that they live under thorn trees? Oh yes the new one, the most corrupt police force in the world steps out of line and $F will hold it accountable . Sure the SDLP were saying this years ago and the Shinners are only now using their same excuse for supporting the PSNI/RUC. In fact they seem to be doing a lot of what the SDLP did years ago.
The bare fact Kevin is that The DUP have forced the $F leadership to make concession after concession in order to be acceptable to them before they would allow the $hinners to serve under Paisley in his Government. The excuses they are now churning out for supporting the Police ,are pathetic attempts to cover up their embarrassment at being forced to accept what they would have shot people for accepting years ago.

As for the ultimate goal of a United Ireland part of your statement, sure your party can't even get into Stormont never mind achieve that.
Actually wasn't it the PSNI who had them thrown out the last time they were there?

by Kevin Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:10

Subscribing to the PSNI is not a concession. It is part of the choice to engauge in real politics in Northern Ireland. A united Ireland will be achieved when there is a concencis to have one. What ever partys are in a position to exploit that concensis are the ones that will be in Stormont when the time comes. Sin Fein intend to be one of those partys.

by casement fan Mon Jan 01, 2007 23:53

SF and the republican movement are extrememly slow learners taking an extrra 20 years to get to the point they are now at: accepting partition, power sharing, PSNI/RUC, Uniionist veto etc. It is pretty awful for everyone to realise that all those maimed and dead bodies were for a quaint throw back to christian democracy. But hey, its better than MI6, the FRU and the nutting squad running everything.

The recognition of the cops has taken way longer than it should have too. Its been an absurd brake on the whole process in the north, not just the stormont part but in dealing with everyday petty crime and anti social stuff. one just needs to hang out around the fountain on any weekend night to see the kids stoning each other across the walls to realise that these are hostage to an abstract political folly. Its revealing on the kind of special needs tip that even the leadership talk about the difficlty of 'bringing people along'. The republican movement is conservative, it has within it no real critique of the police as such. The world republicans would create would have cops as corrupt as those in the UK or in the south so hanging out pretending that somehow the PSNI are uniquely troublesome is absurd for a christian democratic party.

Actually as it stands the cops in the north are way more transparent and subject to oversight than their counterparts in the south. Police killings are independantly investigated, the ombudswomans investigators can enter and search cop stations unnanounced etc. Were this to occur in the south, as is legislated for in the GFA, the Garda would quickly become a far cleaner and straighter outfit. Thats not to say we're going to see killer cops in the dock north or south but the consequences of illegal action are more likely to be haunting in the north. The branch are outside the law in both jurisdictions and will remain so.

by Davy Carlin - Ind Cap Tue Jan 02, 2007 14:26

At present I am writing the last piece of my online diary which will be finished in the days ahead. And one aspect of it deals with the essential issue of policing.

Like many others in the North my extended family, and myself, have seen murder, collusion, torture, brutality and much more at the hands of the state forces and this issue like many others is a difficult one.

I have read all differing 'Party takes' on it {and putting aside any difference on party and various such beliefs for the moment - may it be the IRSP, 32, RSF, WP, SP SWP etc {in regard to SF signing up etc}. - for me the ‘party closest to my ‘take and in my opinion the best thought out and most realistic view is that of the CP Ireland, that is, that held within the 'SOCIALIST VOICE Communist Party of Ireland, Dublin No. 39 (December 2006).

Saying that, on the issue of Strategy more so than tactics, I would add a few more points, as I will in the final part of my Diary - Entitled, Step by Step to Journeys End - A New Beginning’.

I must say also that ‘some {as there are many points from others I would nod in agreement with} - positions on this issue by others, I believe, are nothing more than purism, fantasy politics, dogma or indeed not dealing with the reality of many of us who have growing up and live in such 'Republican working class areas, {at times seemingly in the interests of Dogma rather than the interest of the Class or of 'their People etc}.

In saying that I of course do not agree with all the CP’s ‘take on the issue, but out of all the Left and Republican Parties it is as I have stated {in my individual understanding through life experience} the best thought out and most realistic article I have read from a political party,

I will link up my Final Diary input within a week as it is quite extensive and deals with many many issues of the conflict and my take on such.

I say finally that I have listened to debates which included the IRSP, 32 and SF and they where informative and carried out with sound and well articulated political argument by all sides {from their respective positions}

Such debate is essential on this issue, while not forgeting that there are many other upcoming issues that need to be debated discussed and more importantly mobilised for -

Such as water charges {again the Momentum created and growing recorded in that final Diary input }

Signing Off – ‘D

by Ferry Tue Jan 02, 2007 15:59

Subscribing to the PSNI is not a concession according to Kevin. Of course it is. $F were busy telling us that they would not support Policing until Patton was implemented then suddenly after Paisley added it to his list of demands the $hinners were suddenly talking about the need to support policing. Now the leadership are about to impose it on their party grassroots. All in the space of a few short weeks.

Also according to Kevin, $F's new policy on achieving an United Ireland is, wait for it........ Out breed the prods..........?

The fact is Kevin, $F are now no different to the SDLP in it's aims to achieve a United Ireland, get into Government and bring it up at election times..... HUMBUG.

by Donnchadh Wed Jan 03, 2007 03:15

I the bottom line is that the Uncle Toms in the Neo-Sticky Misleadership are asking the Irish people to accept British Crown law as legitimate in Ireland, and as The Law in the occupied 06. They are recomending that nationalist accept and join the British Crown Colonial Constabulary and spy on their neighbours for the British Crown. How long until the P$F (Please Stoop Lower) Party are backing up the RUC/PSNI after they have shot dead a Republican?

by radical jonny Wed Jan 03, 2007 15:40

Anyone who didn't see this coming (the support by the largest Irish Republican party for the police force in a constituent part of the UK) must have been taking a twenty-year nap.

SF have been moving in this direction since it became clear that an unambiguous IRA victory- along with a British withdrawl- was unfeasible. Any military analyst will tell you that in the absence of victory, all that is left to contemplate is a negotiated settlement. SF found themselves back at the same table as Michael Collins, the very same Michael Collins that they'd spent decades denigrating for not getting a better deal. But at bottom, that's what political settlements are: deals; deals made with people that fundamentally don't agree with you and are also looking to get the best deal.

This is why armed struggle has always been so enticing for so many. It is unambiguous, black and white, victory or death.The current crop of Republican naysayers who seem to be shocked that it has all come to this need to do one of two things:

a.) explain how they'd negotiate a better deal under current conditions and with the same political opponents, or...

b.) explain how they would prosecute a return to the armed struggle in such a way that would lead to victory.

Northern Ireland was always going to be decided through a negotiated political settlement. That's what political parties are for, and SF is a political party, and a large, influential, and extremely well-funded party at that. They are doing what political parties have always done, and what political parties do best.

Wecome to politics.

by Peter K Wed Jan 03, 2007 16:26

That was a very polished post from radical Johnny. But it requires a level trust in the political process as it stands that I could never give.

The corner stone of republicanism has been the establishment of a 32 county socialist republic. Defeating the British was an obstacle to that realisation with the IRA adopting a procrastinatory approach to the broader socialist issues and concentrating on fighting the war. A war in which the nationalist people where subjected to a level of intimidation/persecution/torture and murder by the RUC/PSNI that in my opinion makes them a force that can never be supported by SF.
Pragmatism is sweeping this under the carpet to allow a semblance of joint governance to proceed. How will the socialist ideals of the founders of republicanism be forwarded within this institution?

Michael Collins made a mistake when he signed that treaty, it was a similar pragmatism that allowed him to believe the treaty could be used as a stepping stone to a united Ireland. It looks no closer today that it did then.

by Pearse Leahy Wed Jan 03, 2007 18:32

Radical Jonny 's got it right. CIRA-Republican Sinn Fein have nothing to offer but the futility of armed struggle. Anthony McIntyre rightly characterises such dissidents as 'theological', but he himself offers only scathing criticism of the Adams leadership. As well deserved as such criticism may be it offers no way forward.

by Sharon . - Individual . Wed Jan 03, 2007 20:17

Hi !

Pearse and 'Radical Jonny' should at least admit that others have indeed got something "to offer" : it may not be to the liking of those two posters , but to state that there is "nothing" there at all devalues their argument completely .

http://rsf.ie/eirenua.htm

http://rsf.ie/saolnua.htm

Sharon .

by A Town Wed Jan 03, 2007 21:03

The old argument of a way forward raises it's head again. Adam's way forward is to go back and do what the SDLP did years ago. Remember them pouring scorn and ridicule on Hume's party for supporting the policing board.

How can he expect to lead a party by fascist methods and not expect those of us with an ounce of brains to expect nothing more than a dictatorship should he achieve power.

The recent meetings in Conway Mill and Toome give an indication that there is an undercurrent of disaffected Republicanism out there that will hopefully grow and challenge the Shinners in the way that they, from small beginnings challenged the SDLP. This time however there must never be a way that an individual or group can take control of that challenge, but control must lie in the hands of the grassroots.

There is a true way forward but real Republicans must debate and work on this way forward.

by Ferry Wed Jan 03, 2007 21:46

Would those who still believe that there is an iota of Socialist Republicanism left in $F please look around you. Take any area and look at those in leadership of $F there. How many have big houses in Spain, Portugal or Donegal? How many now own the businesses they once worked for? In particular how many own numerous houses in your area?
Take at look at how many are now wealthy while those who made the greatest sacrifice own what? A nice headstone in a lonely graveyard.

by radical jonny Wed Jan 03, 2007 22:05

Peter K: My original post had a stripe of irony running through it. My anarchism leaves me fundamentally sceptical of the political process and extremely pragmatic about what its able to acheive. My point was merely that SF are a political party and therefore basically accept the political process as it exists. They are therefore prepared to accept the process with all its deficiencies; in this case, cut deals with people that are fundamentally opposed to their aspirations. SF are playing the political game. Their supporters are now finding out just how messy a game it is.

Sharon: I read up on the sites you posted. It's all fascinating. The problem is that you'll never EVER sell it to the northern Unionists. Remember them? You can't wish them away. They are the 500 lb. gorilla in the middle of any Republican plan for a 32-county Ireland. It seems that the whole plan revolves around either killing them all, deporting them all, or convincing them all.

Personally, I believe that any future for Northern Ireland is going to have to be a mutually shared future, mutually envisioned by everybody.

That means dialogue.

by Patrick Henry Wed Jan 03, 2007 22:46

I agree with Ferry about those in Sinn Fein who have become, shall we say, quite wealthy, my question is:

Where did they get the money for all this????????

by burgess Thu Jan 04, 2007 00:38

RTE website claiming that there are doubts about whether Ard Fheis will go ahead, sinners suggesting that a lack of support from DUP is the immediate cause. That seems unlikely, perhaps theres a little more resistance within the party than the leadership expected. would be interesting to see them miscalculate this one. Id like to know exactly what the problems are that people within SF are having. Perhaps its symbolic and its just a bridge too far to actually join the cops but it seems there have been countless points of no return passed without any serious dissent.

by Sharon. - Individual . Thu Jan 04, 2007 02:00

Hi 'Radical Jonny' !

" It seems that the whole plan revolves around either killing them all, deporting them all, or convincing them all. "
The words "killing" and/or "deporting" were not used on the documents you read , were they ?
However - at least now you admit that "a plan" does exist , which is an improvement on your earlier position ie " Republican Sinn Fein have nothing to offer " .

You have since stated - " Personally, I believe that any future for Northern Ireland is going to have to be a mutually shared future, mutually envisioned by everybody. "
Would that not involve a certain amount of "convincing them" , too ?

Sharon .

by Kevin Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:23

In one of Ferrys earlier efforts he made refference to the little people. Not surprising since the thrust of this debate has gone miles over his head, which is some achievement since he seems to be in orbit somewhere in outer space. Relax Ferry. See if you can just listen and learn for a while. While you are doing that you could be thinking of some credible solutions to the problem. I look forward to the fruits of your new adventure.

by Peter K Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:14

I see where your coming from but,

On the whole, republicanism has never been afraid of dialogue, but it always, prior to now, insisted that a united Ireland or at the very least a commitment from the British for withdrawal was part of the negotiated settlement.

They came damn close in 74 and I am convinced the attack at Britain’s Economic Heart (Canary Wharf) brought them back to the negotiating table after the Thatcher years had made such a move by the British tantamount to surrender.

The British withdrew from its colonies in Africa. Within these colonies where sizeable unionist and ex-pat populations. Whitehall told them they where going and that they faced a simple choice. Leave or negotiate a favourable position for yourselves in a new reality.
The DUP can huff and puff all it wants. But in the cold light of day it has never been faced with such a choice.

Pragmatism did not plant Ulster. Nor will it solve the problem.

by radical jonny Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:53

Hi Sharon.

Fair play to you. Perhaps I extrapolated a bit much. Convincing the northern Unionists (and for the record, I'm not one...) of the benefits of a 32-county republic is a worthy endeavour. It'll certainly be uphill work, as the political process in NI has never been a particularly healthy beast. Neither Unionism or Republicanism have done much in the way of convincing each other since 1921. And certainly as long as the Unionist population not only prefer the UK link but dread the alternatives, and as long as the Republicans see a 32-county Ireland as an essential 'intrinsic good' and anything less a sell-out, the work is cut out for us.

To be fair, both sides have made their ideas and policies available for those willing to make the effort, and certainly both sides THINK they tried to convince, but any meaningful attempt to ensure proper comprehension occurred was nonexistent. The 30 years of civil conflict might have damaged that hope irrepairably. But there's no time like the present to make a start.

And just for the record, I never said republicanism had 'nothing to offer'; Pearse Leahy did.

by Pearse Leahy Thu Jan 04, 2007 17:07

I never said that republicanism had nothing to offer.
My point was that after 30 years of futile armed struggle, to advocate more of the same, as CIRA/RSF does, is to offer nothing.
Anthony McIntyre's position seems to be that the armed struggle achieved nothing and so Adams and company are hypocrites. Fine, but where does that take us?
Harping on about the Adams 'sellout ' is all very well but neither McIntyre nor any of the dissident groups offer any positive way forward.
And so Gerry and the Peacemakers continue to be the only show in town-grating as much of their music sounds.

by Sharon . - Individual . Thu Jan 04, 2007 19:33

Hi 'Radical Jonny' !

" Hi Sharon.

Fair play to you. Perhaps I extrapolated a bit much. "
Just a wee bit , yes ... ;-)

" Convincing the northern Unionists (and for the record, I'm not one...) of the benefits of a 32-county republic is a worthy endeavour. It'll certainly be uphill work, as the political process in NI has never been a particularly healthy beast. Neither Unionism or Republicanism have done much in the way of convincing each other since 1921. "
It is indeed a "worthy endeavour" , Sir , and an endeavour which might bear fruit all the quicker if Westminster were to 'push a few buttons' from its end .

" And certainly as long as the Unionist population not only prefer the UK link but dread the alternatives, and as long as the Republicans see a 32-county Ireland as an essential 'intrinsic good' and anything less a sell-out, the work is cut out for us. "
The "Unionist population" are a minority on this isle and , as such , are not in any position to insist we abide by their jurisdictional preferences .

" To be fair, both sides have made their ideas and policies available for those willing to make the effort, and certainly both sides THINK they tried to convince, but any meaningful attempt to ensure proper comprehension occurred was nonexistent. The 30 years of civil conflict might have damaged that hope irrepairably. But there's no time like the present to make a start. "
A "start" was made - and more than "30 years" ago , too - but you are right re there being "no time like the present" to ensure that policies which , I believe , allow for a satisfactory conclusion all round , be "made available for those willing to make the effort" .

" And just for the record, I never said republicanism had 'nothing to offer'; Pearse Leahy did. "
Pearse said that Republican Sinn Fein has "nothing to offer but the futility of armed struggle " , Hopefully , the links I posted earlier were of some help to him .

Pearse also stated -

" My point was that after 30 years of futile armed struggle, to advocate more of the same, as CIRA/RSF does, is to offer nothing."
It has been more than "30 years of armed struggle" , Pearse , and not one year of it "advocated" by RSF ie RSF does not 'recommend' armed struggle - rather , RSF can , I believe , understand why people take such a course .

" Anthony McIntyre's position seems to be that the armed struggle achieved nothing and so Adams and company are hypocrites. Fine, but where does that take us? Harping on about the Adams 'sellout ' is all very well but neither McIntyre nor any of the dissident groups offer any positive way forward."
Mr McIntyre is well able to speak for himself , Pearse - I have no intention of presuming to speak on his behalf . Also , you seem to have ignored those links I referred to previously , or are you dismissing same as 'non-positive' ?

"And so Gerry and the Peacemakers continue to be the only show in town-grating as much of their music sounds."
"Grating" indeed : a high-pitched whine rather than "music" ! The "only show in town* " for a sticking-plaster 'solution' , but nowhere near 'town' otherwise!
(*SDLP and those political party's in Leinster House)

'Bye!

Sharon.

by Ferry Thu Jan 04, 2007 21:33

Kevin I doubt I'll learn much from someone with the idiotic idea that support for the PSNI is a tool to achieve an United Ireland. You are clearly one of those nodding dogs who would jump off a cliff if Adams said that it was the best way forward.

Kevin I might learn something from others on this tread, but the only thing that I've learnt from you is that $F is not short of small minded individuals who gaze up open mouthed at Adams and believe everything he says while swallowing every passing fly.

by Kevin Fri Jan 05, 2007 14:57

Ferry, If want to to beat your opponent you have got to be a player. There is no use in whinging and taking umbridge on the side lines about how unfair the reff is, or how uneven the pitch is, or how rough the other players are. You have to get stuck in and beat them on the field. With regard to 'out breeding the Prodds' . Dont be putting words in my mouth. They are your words. A concencis for a united Ireland could well be weighted by protestant opinion in the future. It would be no bad thing if it were. By the way I am married to a 'Prodd' (just about !!). I was born a black Catholic but the polish soon rubbed off. My national school teachers were right. I was a pagan all along. Two of my daughters are catholics and one is a 'Prodd' . Blue eyed blonds all three of them. It must be the Anglo Saxon gene comming through, bless them. But sure they are salts of the earth and I love them to bits.
Ferry, I'd hate to fall out with you old sport, so a last bit of advice. No need to polish the jack boots any more. Hang them up. Dont waste any more oil on the AKK, and put away the Che Guevarra base ball cap. Try do something difficult for a change. Just play the game.

by Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink Fri Jan 05, 2007 18:18

When are Republicans going to stick it to $inn Féin? I hope the forthcoming assembly elections.

by radical jonny Fri Jan 05, 2007 19:25

"When are Republicans going to stick it to $inn Féin? I hope the forthcoming assembly elections."

There's no other republican party in the North for them to transfer a vote. The IRSP or Workers? And I wonder if the government would even allow another into the fray. The party in question would have to bow the knee to the Good Friday Agreement in advance, so they'd be limited in the amount of dissent they'd be able to voice.

Gotta love democracy, eh?

by A Town Mon Jan 08, 2007 19:55

As far as I know Anti-policing Republicans will be running candidates against the Shinners in 13 constituencies. It is vitally important that all true Republicans get together to ensure that their families and friends come out and cast a protest vote against those have betrayed everything the Hunger Strikers and countless volunteers died for.

This is the one thing that Sinn Fein fears and it was evident from the letters in todays Irish News with a couple of minor Shinners trying to catch Adams attention whinging about not getting the same coverage as Brendan Hughes and John Kelly. Funny how similar the letters appeared, both written by Derry men......

by Ard Mhaca Mon Jan 08, 2007 21:15

It's hardly surprising to hear that Derry members of Provo $inn Fein are loudest in their support for the Sell Out. Sure Derry has always been seen as the weakest area during the War.
It's widely believed that Derry Decommissioned their weapons years before the ceasefires.