A bird's eye view of the vineyard
Alternative Copy of thesaker.is site is available Thu May 25, 2023 14:38 | Ice-Saker-V6bKu3nz Alternative site: https://thesaker.si/saker-a... Site was created using the downloads provided Regards Herb
The Saker blog is now frozen Tue Feb 28, 2023 23:55 | The Saker Dear friends As I have previously announced, we are now “freezing” the blog.? We are also making archives of the blog available for free download in various formats (see below).?
What do you make of the Russia and China Partnership? Tue Feb 28, 2023 16:26 | The Saker by Mr. Allen for the Saker blog Over the last few years, we hear leaders from both Russia and China pronouncing that they have formed a relationship where there are
Moveable Feast Cafe 2023/02/27 ? Open Thread Mon Feb 27, 2023 19:00 | cafe-uploader 2023/02/27 19:00:02Welcome to the ‘Moveable Feast Cafe’. The ‘Moveable Feast’ is an open thread where readers can post wide ranging observations, articles, rants, off topic and have animate discussions of
The stage is set for Hybrid World War III Mon Feb 27, 2023 15:50 | The Saker Pepe Escobar for the Saker blog A powerful feeling rhythms your skin and drums up your soul as you?re immersed in a long walk under persistent snow flurries, pinpointed by The Saker >>
Interested in maladministration. Estd. 2005
RTEs Sarah McInerney ? Fianna Fail?supporter? Anthony
Joe Duffy is dishonest and untrustworthy Anthony
Robert Watt complaint: Time for decision by SIPO Anthony
RTE in breach of its own editorial principles Anthony
Waiting for SIPO Anthony Public Inquiry >>
Promoting Human Rights in IrelandHuman Rights in Ireland >>
News Round-Up Sat Nov 30, 2024 01:30 | Toby Young A summary of the most interesting stories in the past 24 hours that challenge the prevailing orthodoxy about the ?climate emergency?, public health ?crises? and the supposed moral defects of Western civilisation.
The post News Round-Up appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.
?Ulez Architect? and 20mph Zone Supporter Appointed New Transport Secretary Fri Nov 29, 2024 17:38 | Will Jones One of the 'architects of Ulez' and a supporter of 20mph zones has been appointed as the new Transport Secretary?after Louise Haigh's resignation, raising fears the anti-car measures may become national policy.
The post ‘Ulez Architect’ and 20mph Zone Supporter Appointed New Transport Secretary appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.
Assisted Suicide Set to Be Legalised as MPs Back Bill Fri Nov 29, 2024 15:07 | Will Jones MPs have voted in favour of legalising assisted suicide as Labour's massive majority allowed the legislation to clear its first hurdle in the House of Commons by 330 votes to 275.
The post Assisted Suicide Set to Be Legalised as MPs Back Bill appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.
Australia Passes Landmark Social Media Ban for Under-16s Fri Nov 29, 2024 13:43 | Rebekah Barnett Australia is the first country to ban social media for under-16s after a landmark bill passed that critics have warned is rushed and a Trojan horse for Government Digital ID as everyone must now verify their age.
The post Australia Passes Landmark Social Media Ban for Under-16s appeared first on The Daily Sceptic.
Is Banning the Burps of Bullocks Worth Risking Our Bollocks? Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:32 | Ben Pile Is banning the burps of bullocks worth risking our bollocks? That the question posed by the decision to give Bovaer to cows to 'save the planet', says Ben Pile, after evidence suggests a possible risk to male fertility.
The post Is Banning the Burps of Bullocks Worth Risking Our Bollocks? appeared first on The Daily Sceptic. Lockdown Skeptics >>
|
Post Lisbon Referendum – An analysis of the profile and reasons behind why people voted NO.
national |
miscellaneous |
opinion/analysis
Friday July 11, 2008 17:01 by Libertarian
Introduction
The purpose of this article is to evaluate the recent opinion poll carried out by the European commission on the Lisbon treaty result, paying specific attention to NO voters. The focus will not only be on the profile of those who voted NO, but more importantly the reasons behind why they voted No.
An opinion poll carried out by the European commission on the 13th – 14th June was released during the week. The Eurobarometer randomly surveyed 2,000 people to understand 5 main issues:
1. To understand the reasons for non – participation in the referendum
2. To evaluate the respondents views about the campaign
3. To identify the main reasons for ‘yes’ and ‘no’ votes.
4. To get an overall reaction to the result
The main overall findings make for interesting reading, but a lot of it is unsurprising for those who followed the pre and post analysis of the campaign. Whilst many felt there was a significant ‘class’ factor to the NO vote there was very little evidence to illustrate why and how the working and middle class voted.
The main findings are as follows:
1. Most people did not vote because they did not understand what the issues presented.
2. Most voters felt that campaigners used it as an opportunity to promote their own political agenda
3. There were multi dimensional reasons for why people voted NO (outlined below), but Yes voters were more one dimensional (focusing on the benefits Ireland gain from the EU)
4. Those who voted NO were predominantly young people, women, students, the unemployed and manual workers
5. Those who voted Yes were predominantly managers, professionals and retired people
Profile of No voters
The silent majority :
Before analysing why people voted No it is worth noting that 51% of workers (described as employees in the poll) did not vote in the referendum. That is, 6/10 manual workers did not vote. The poll does not clarify whether those surveyed were eligible to vote, i.e. migrant labourers etc. Only 39% of employers or self employed did not vote. Thus, the majority of working class people in Ireland did not vote in the Lisbon referendum and there is no information detailing how they may have voted.
The two main reasons for not voting by both working and professional class were a) lack of knowledge and b) referendum not important to them. 86% of those who did not vote stated that they still supported Ireland’s membership of the EU.
The voting minority:
It is clear that there was a pattern amongst those who voted NO to Lisbon.After analysing the socio demographic groups of who voted NO there is a clear pattern amongst 5 groups. There are listed below
1. 74% of manual workers
2. 72% of students (predominantly from professional backgrounds)
3. 65% of 18 – 24 year olds (Young people)
4. 58% of unemployed
5. 56% of women (mainly those working in the home)
The 5 main supporters of the YES vote where generally male and came from higher socio economic groups
1. 68% of the self employed
2. 66% of senior managers
3. 58% of professionals
4. 57% of those who had completed higher education
5. 51% of men
Reasons behind why they voted No.
However concentrating on the profile of those who voted will not provide us with any clear understanding as to why people voted NO. Common sense can often tell us what ‘social category’ voters fall into. This is not rocket science. It is far better to concentrate on the reasons people why people voted NO (and after analysing the profile we can ask why did the majority of the working class either disengage or vote NO in the referendum).
The two main reasons provided by NO voters are
a) A lack of information (22%)- Democracy
b) To protect Irish identity (12%) – Nationalism
Besides these two main rationales, NO voters (working class it would appear) listed the following in rank order
c) To safeguard Irish neutrality & defence matters (6%)
d) Lack of trust in politicians (6%)
e) Losing the right to an Irish commissioner (6%)
f) Protest against government policies (4%)
g) Protect influence of small states (3%)
h) To stop introduction of abortion (2%)
i) To avoid an influx of immigrants (1%)
An important figure is the 14% of people gave ‘other’ reasons. These are not detailed in the report. Also an important omission was not providing specific workers related issues on the list of options to people to choose from. There was also no mention of people voting NO against a particular type of Europe, i.e. a Neo Liberal Europe. However, it was mentioned that the 14% contained many different responses so it may be several clusters of smaller reasons with no clear observation such as workers rights.
Conclusions and interpretations
Was class a significant factor? Of course class was a significant factor. It is not rocket science to acknowledge different socio – cultural and socio- economic groups vote in particular patterns. However, what is more significant for those wanting to build upon the NO vote is to analyse the reasons why people voted no. Just because the working class voted NO it would be wrong to conclude that this was some a victory for the progressive left in Ireland.
What is positive is the glaringly obvious fact that most people voted NO because they had no part in creating the decision they were being asked to vote on. Thus, it is a victory for grassroots democracy. Also, the fact that the vast majority of people did not vote on the basis of lack of knowledge shows that people will not be herded in like cattle to vote on something they do not understand.
However, most NO voters also pledged support for one of the two main political parties in the country FG & FF. 49% of FG supporters voted No, 40% of FF supporters voted No, 55% of Labour voters voted No and almost 60% of the Greens voted No, 95% of Sinn Fein voters voted No. Hence it shows that not all those who support a political party will follow the ‘party line’. Arguably, this is a positive sign for progressive politics?
What is also obvious (and personally I find this negative) is the grip of ‘national identity’ upon the politics of the working class. If I was in Sinn Fein I would take a lot of positive from this poll. Nationalism was undoubtedly a massive factor for why people voted NO. So, it looks like the retention of a strong Irish identity amongst the working class is still a crucial political concern.
|
View Comments Titles Only
save preference
Comments (3 of 3)
Jump To Comment: 1 2 3I don't think a strong cultural and national identity amongst Irish working people is a cause for "concern".
Some of us even speak Irish too.
'National identity' and 'nationalism' are not the same thing. This is a very superficial 'analysis' imho.
Well well well, it appears that even though a higher percentage of people voted against Lisbon being adopted than voted for Barack Obama as president of the Unified States, and much greater than voted for Cowen, Harney and Lenihan, they are not allowed to leave it at that, and now we must vote again, and it seems, again, until the other side get the result the want.
While we may be downhearted about this, let's remember clearly, we did win the referendum on the Lisbon Treaty in 2008. It was a tough fight, but we won fairly and legally.
The poor losers of the other side demanding a re-match is as a clear a judgment on them and their bankruptcy as you could ever want.
But they should be careful- those who close democratic avenues for change should be prepared to accept the consequences of people losing faith in voting and finding other ways to make their voices heard.