New leader for Republican Sinn Fein

by o as if - (iosaf) marketh with good wit the ascension of a comrade ;-) Sun Nov 15, 2009 21:04

& as such his wikipedia biography merits a perusal. Dessie's wikipedia page has been much overlooked over the years since it was created in July 2006 and its first edit recorded a capitalisation which moved humble des dalton to Des Dalton. His neutral internet encyclopedia entry has really quite astoundingly for the newly appointed leader of a cutting edge first rank republican party using the name of the oldest political party on the island of Ireland gone much overlooked since. In May 2009 someone saw fit to add him to the list of living people which in wikipedia terms is really quite a boost. The man of course does more than replace a long term president of RSF he steps into the shoes of the only president of RSF ever ever Go deo a rún-o is tú imithe arís..

This of course is very good news for those who might have thought the relict rump of abstentionist Irish republicanism & principle party of the green geansaí were going to do a North Korean jig and appoint Ruari O Bhradaigh Junior to the top post.

* So what kind of party has Dessie found himself at the helm of as it seeks to recruit and shape the 21st century in a 32 county Ireland and beyond in its diasporia?
: Well no I-phone application would be up to the task of measuring the steps taken and calories burnt by the republican Sinn Fein bunch through the years in their championing of the historically indisputable factuality of the 1st Dail's electoral mandate & generally unshaven appearance.

*Does Mr Dalton sport an unshaven appearance?
: No, not a bit of it. As illustrated, the new leader of the internationaly touchstone of Irish Republicanism which is RSF is neither a bearded man nor a fear gruagach as the more hirsuite of the malechild variety amongst us have no doubt heard ourselves described down the local basement potchín faculty over the 120pmb boudhrain music. Sure it's better to be called a fear gruagach than a "wiggie cavan bartender".

* Is Mr Dalton likely to lead an update of the green geansaí & sunglass march around Parnell Square image ?
: Only his crucial first 100 days in leadership will answer such questions and concerns from no doubt the grassroots of parents of wee Fianna Eirinn children loathe to endure much more outlay on berets, sunglasses and green geansaís as much as the rapt attention of the Irish Free State's misguided middle classes and their troskyite / anarchist spoilt offspring.

* Could Mr Dalton be the man in charge of RSF to lead it into not only the Eire state Dail but a clutch of seats at the Stormont assembly?
: Would you like extra cheese on your pizza?

* Has this decision by RSF to accept a southerner and free stater as its president and an individual who though fond of press releases and has made his position clear on a possible visit by Mrs Windsor the queen of Engurland to either our occupied or colloborating soil perhaps further alienated fringe dissident republicans in the north?
: You'd have to ring up Eirigi & ask them how their recruiting is going.


Your first step as president of RSF must be to galvanise the Irish Diasporia in the USA, Mr Dalton!

No doubt we all wish you luck in the unenviable task of shepherding your flock through the 21st century.


(if they give you a visa)

An t-uasal green geansaí & sunglasses, the Rt Hon Des Dalton - uachtaran of RSF.

by Spailpin Americanach Mon Nov 16, 2009 01:22

The Diaspora stands ready to rally to the green banner now held aloft by the real President of the Irish Republic, Mr. Des Dalton.
Under his charismatic leadership we will fight the good fight to free our native land which our forebears left because of poverty and freedom of speech.
Somewhere somehow a beginning must be made and that beginning has been made by this true patriotic Irishman who a few years ago received 131 votes in an election.
Those of us in Queens and the Bronx will build on this advance and finally free the Green Isle of Erin from the 800 year old yoke and counting of the hated Sassenach, and their native quislings such as Gerry Adams, Eamon DeValera, Kevin Myers, Owen Harris, and Martin McGuinness.
Mr. Dalton, the Hilbernian race exiled abroad far from our native shore which our forebears fled, stand ready to hold aloft that tattered but proud banner of Irish national self-determination. The Diaspora will not be found wanting.

by o as if Mon Nov 16, 2009 09:20

Nobody has thought to update the page on Ruairí at wikipedia which still describes him as the incumbent president of RSF and head honcho of the green geansaí & sunglasses crew. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruairí_Ó_Brádaigh

This could mean several things, my favourite of which are the following :-

a) Des Dalton isn't really president of RSF & we are the victims of a MI5 disinformation plot, surely the sharpest amongst us noticed that this article sourced itself in google's UK hosted news. Surely no green geansaí would have chosen UK google over the Irish version?

b) Des Dalton faces in his crucial first 100 days of leadership a task more daunting than shepherding his flock into the 21st century. He might have to get them through the latter 20th century too. The bit when they invented the internet and wikipedia became important.

Meanwhile many of us must be wondering what will the new RSF be like and though we might take it for granted that it won't move or budge a milimetre on many of its core issues we might look forward to it branching out into new as of yet innovative concerns for dissident republicanism or the legitimate and true heirs of the 1816 green geansaí & Wolfe Tone.

where will they stand on badgers?

or an cheist broc as you could put it.

have they formulated a position on chewing gum which is a blight cast upon our roads?

etc.,

by o as if Mon Nov 16, 2009 19:30

At 22 minutes past the 16th hour ISP 86.170.91.49 made their first ever recorded edit to a wikipedia entry at line 23 of Ruairí Ó Brádaigh's biography substituting the qualifying adjective "current" in front of the title "president of the all-Ireland political party, Republican Sinn Féin." for the word "former".

The Green geansaí & sunglass crew are thus it seems au fait with the sandbox and crucial bits and pieces of credible sourced internet data & savvy cyber spin doctoring and image management on which our age does a pirouette. But ISP 86.170.91.49 whilst also mentioning Des Dalton and linking to his page, didn't change Ruairí O B's status on the sidebar which displays a photo of him marching not in grean geansaí or sunglasses but a muted grey sportsjacket over slacks,a RUC shade of green shirt with a wee blackthorn walking stick in his left hand. It still describes his an incumbent .

Likewise the warning flag on An t-uasal green geansaí & sunglasses, the Rt Hon Des Dalton - uachtaran of RSF that the entry might not meet the Notability criteria of Wikipedia still stands & as such wikipedians are still deciding if Des Dalton deserves his own wikipedia entry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability Or should his entry be merged..,

* Could Mr Dalton be any less notable a uachtaran of the green geansaí of 1188 then Ruairí O B?
= Did he lead SF and then split it?
= Did he go to prison and kilmainham or languish in frongach?
= Is his name a hushed byword by the homesteads of the forever rebellious diasporia from Colorado to Quebec?
= Does he measure up?

* Of course not he was a lad in the Free State long after Ruairí had tunnelled out of Frongach & skipped the gallows to leave Emmett to his torturers - only to keep the standard flying for newer generations.

= Does Mr Dalton compare to Brendan Mc Kenna the Ulsterman of notable past who is the General Secretary of éirígí?
= After all nobody has ever flagged Mc Kenna as being un-notable.

Surely these first 100 days of leadership are crucial.

by o as if Tue Nov 17, 2009 20:52

The man to lead abstentionist Irish republican dissidents through the pitfalls of the new internet era as they balance playing it subtle with piling on the cheese began his acceptance speech as is usual in Irish Gaeilge (for those who don't know an cheist broc from an cheist mbroc perhaps due to watching too much MTV). He then praised the founder of RSF, Ruairi O B for the role he has undoubtedly played in what Dalton termed a revolutionary tradition which stretches back through 218 years of Irish history . He thanked Ruairi for bringing it into the 21st century [sic] and then had a kind word for the man who he beat to the post of uachtaran of all green geansaís the Rt Hon Des Long who is a bit of a nipper in RSF politics having only dedicated 50 years to the geansaí and sunglasses.

Then he got serious.

he used the word C-O-N-T-I-N-U-I-T-Y

here's how he used it :-

........."As Irish Republicans we are rightly proud of our history of unbroken resistance to British rule in Ireland. We are inheritors of a revolutionary tradition which stretches back through 218 years of Irish history. We are members of the oldest revolutionary movement in the world. We have every right to be proud! A true continuity of struggle. "

he then got ethical on the faithful who had just told bore a sacred duty as holy as matt talbot's oath to ne'er touch dhrink agin

......."But it is not enough to know all of this. As inheritors of such a tradition, it brings with duties and responsibilities. Our duty is to bring about the realisation of the ideals which inspired all those who have gone before us. Ideals and a sense of duty which have inspired succeeding generations of Republicans to sacrifice their very all. (bring a few bystanders down too perhaps) The responsibility falls on each succeeding generation to take up and carry forward the torch of Irish freedom. It is not enough to say we are right but we must show it by our actions, our work and our commitment.

___________________________________________________________________________

Now when you're still waiting to break through the 200 vote threshhold, you can be forgiven for saying things which are polemical or certain to be interpreted in certain ways . But once you're notable and being described as the president of Sinn Fein rather than the 2nd leader of a relict rump - then you get parsed.

¿no?

by Frank Tue Nov 17, 2009 21:40

Why is it that those who most loudly profess that groups like RSF are irrelevant are so obsessed by the belief that they must profess it loudly, and at every opportunity? If you hold the belief that they are irrelevant why not enact that belief and remain silent on it?

by - Tue Nov 17, 2009 23:28

The last commentator has asked a very valid question : why is that people [in these cyber circles[ pay attention to the green geansaí and sunglasses crew if despite their abstentionism not being rooted in the anarchist principles of non-engagement with liberal democracy still contest elections and have yet to break through the 200 vote mark & actively recruit minors to dress up as a paramilitaries? As a question and line of ponderence it's almost (but not quite) a variation on the thesis that RSF was only relevant or notable because it was led by the ancient & gnarly Ruairí O B, a man as much a product of the past of the Irish people as Ian Paisley.

.....................................the answer is pretty simple....................................

RSF have yet to condemn and eschew (nor much less articulate politics which do not include; preclude, presume or rely upon the glorification of) violence against working people on this island as part of a rotundly rejected and reprehensible strategy to end partition.

If it were the case that the peoples of this island and its diasporias had no reason to link their party allbeit tenously or has been the case with due considered evidence and convicted trial to the active pursuit of armed struggle - then they would quite frankly be as irrelevant as they are un-notable.

Des Dalton has a little more than 90 days left of his first 100 days to lead one of the most deluded sections of what is a noble stream of global republican thought in both aspiration and tradition (if not fashion sense) to a stance befitting of the Irish people in the 21st century.

Such a position would not oblige RSF and the group of individuals generally held to be its armed wing from apologising, seeking reconciliation, considering atonement : However, it ought mean that they accept the fact that in contemporary Ireland and in the current Irish global community the inclusion of armed struggle is on longer considered a valid or justified nor in any sense an honourable route by which the tradition of those who we think wore the green geansaí had better be continued.

& if an t-uasal uachtarán Des Dalton had bothered doing some research he would have noticed that Irish republicanism is not the oldest revolutionary struggle still extant on earth. That prize if it's worth putting on a shelf of aggrandisement belongs to the tupak.

look 'em on wikipedia - why not?

by Frank Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:05

Mo chara repeating yourself in no way addresses the inherent contradiction in your position. Why the preoccupation with something you consider irrelevant?

by o as if Wed Nov 18, 2009 20:12

The last commentator suggests I think something is irrelevant. It's a word which appears on this thread 5 times. He used it twice in his comment in which he noted his bewilderment. They were the first 2 times the wee word was used. In response I used it twice too! The last and fifth use so far is in the comment where he guilefully suggests I am repeating myself instead of answering some obvious question .

It might be time to deconstruct what has been said, writ & done.

The word notability appears on this page twice.

The word continuity appears on this page three times, once in funny lettering all spellt out in bold like which is bloody hassle on the entering of HTML level.

The word geansaí appears on this page 17 times.

the 17 geansaí mentions kick the shite of the repititions & instances of any word on this page excluding verbs, prepositions, conjugations & those at first reading ought serve only to underwrite the message.

The most frequent adjective has been green.

as in green geansaí.

they pop up everywhere for a fickle bunch, don't they?