Slaughter in Qana by the Israeli's

by Tommy Donnellan - IPSC Sun Jul 30, 2006 15:43

Below are copied/pasted extracts/photos culled from an Electronic Lebanon report on the second Qana massacre (see link) and yesterdays mass burial of Lebanese civilians in Tyre.

It is the deadliest single strike since Israel unleashed its war on Lebanon. Israel, the US and several European governments are in no rush to reach a ceasefire. Dozens of other villages in the region around the southern port city of Tyre were also bombarded for two hours overnight with fire from the Israeli navy, air force and artillery. Israeli planes also tore up the Masnaa border crossing into Syria, leading to the closure of the main Damascus-Beirut route.
Israel's attack on Qana's residents came shortly after rejecting a UN call for a 72-hour humanitarian truce to allow the delivery of relief items to Lebanon. UN humanitarian chief Jan Egeland had appealed for a truce to allow casualties to be removed and food and medicine to be sent into the war zone, saying one third of the casualties were children.
Leading up to the Qana massacre, 17 villages had been flattened, over a half million people had been rendered homeless, more than 200 had been killed, and hundreds were wounded.

The tragedy at Qana today is that this is not unique in its general features. Israel's wars on Lebanon have been attended by violence, death and destruction of enormous proportions. Israel does not have any grounds to rely on the provision of the Charter of the United Nations concerning self-defence, while the means used to effect Lebanon's invasion totally lack proportionality.

Israel's kind of war effort obliterates the very idea of innocence as fully in its own way as does nuclear war. The irony here is very great because it is in these conflicts where the need for law is the greatest - that is, where battlefield tactics often tend to concentrate their firepower on civilians, civilian sanctuaries (hospital, churches, schools) and cultural centres, and to ignore the distinction between military and non-military. Governments that designate their enemies as 'terrorists' or 'criminals' treat their conflicts as outside the law.

On the first Qana massacre, Robert Fiske reported : "It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their heads or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disemboweled. there were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world's protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong."

TYRE -- Lebanese authorities buried 32 unclaimed bodies in a mass grave in wasteland outside Tyre on Saturday 29th July.

The Lebanese soldiers retch as they unload maggot-infested body bags into coffins laid out for the mass burial. The bodies had lain unrecovered for up to ten days in the burned-out shells of cars, or scattered around the devastated villages of south Lebanon.

Four screen images from various TV coverage. (EI)

Thirty coffins were buried in a mass grave in Tyre on 29 July. (Hugh Macleod/IRIN)

by Maximillions Sun Jul 30, 2006 16:46

I have just eMailed the Israeli Embassy with my protest on the massacre. Here is their address. embisrael@iol.ie

by Andy Cambell - IAWM Sun Jul 30, 2006 16:47

So far, Israel has ignored forty-six resolutions of the General Assembly and other U.N. bodies

The U.S. has vetoed, in the U.N. Security Council,
forty resolutions condemning actions of Israel,

A free trip to another planet for anyone who does'nt predict that, on the Qana massacre, it's going to be forty-seven and forty-one respectively?.

Rogue state Israel !

by Reality Czech Sun Jul 30, 2006 18:33

Hezbollah loves civilian casualties. That's why they "invited
refugees to hide amongst weapons and fighting men. It's not a new tactic. Just an expansion on an old one.

by arthur mckevitt Sun Jul 30, 2006 19:39 arthur.mckevitt at yahoo dot com

The murder of 37 children in this disgraceful saga in Lebanon caused by the Israelis today, calls for just a little more than lip service to the forces of nature that should reside in each of us, that claim to be members of the human race. We need to strike a cord with nature and ask what has happened to the descendants of the people of the USA who asked Charles Dickens when he visited there over a century ago, “How is little Nell”?, the character in one of his novels. What about the Little Nells, of Lebanon, whose lives were cruelly extinguished this morning. Have they lost their nature those peoples in America that have given so much in the past to steer humanity from the dangers that confronted it. When you see video’s of the children of Israel and Lebanon they look identical in the beauty that nature has bestowed on them and of course they are genetically related through their direct ancestors now provable by their Mitochondrial DNA. It is no use the White House apologists saying it was disproportionate having supplied the weaponry that caused this. The white House should be renamed “Shite House” forthwith, until there is an understanding that children matter and when we discriminate, diminish, or condone the murder of innocents we do not deserve to hold a position of authority that commands any respect. The Labour party must urge Blair to go; he has now become a massive liability because of his slavish adoration to Bush policies. He has somehow forgotten that Britain’s way of life for all its peculiarities was a beacon of hope to many of the world’s oppressed peoples. Albert Einstein once said “Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth” There is now also no point in waiting for others to protest, we must all make it quite clear we abhor what we are witnessing and for those who do not understand this, we must realise that no explanation is ever likely to be possible and they must be disregarded. I feel so strongly about what is going on I must put my name to the article and to hell with the consequences.

by Tommy Donnellan - IPSC Sun Jul 30, 2006 19:50

Neocon David Horowitz says that by slaughtering Palestinian and Lebanese civilians, “Israel is doing the work of the rest of the civilized world,” thus equating war criminals with civilized men.Neocon Larry Kudlow says that “Israel is doing the Lord’s work” by murdering Lebanese, a claim that should give pause to Israel’s Christian evangelical supporters. Where, "Reality Czech, " does the Lord Jesus say, “go forth and murder your neighbors so that you may steal their lands”?

Muslim genocide in one form or another is the professed goal of the neoconservatives who have total control over the Bush administration. Neocon godfather Norman Podhoretz has called for World War IV (in neocon thinking WW III was the cold war) to overthrow Islam in the Middle East, deracinate the Islamic religion and turn it into a formalized, secular ritual. Naw, Reality Czech,""It's not a new tactic. Just an expansion on an old one" as old as the slaughter visited on the indigenous people of North America, Armenia and obscene irony of all ironies, the jews,

As regards the first, for the sake of "mankind and "civilization," Theodore Roosevelt wrote, it was "all-important that North America be won by a "masterful people." Although for the indigenous population this meant "the infliction and suffering of hideous woe and misery," it couldn't have been otherwise : "The world would probably not have gone forward at all, had it not been for the displacement or submersion of savage and barbaric peoples." And again: "The settler and pioneer have at bottom justice on their side; this great continent could not have been kept as nothing but a game preserve for squalid savages."

And so the evil psychopathology goes and judging from the tone and abysmal ignorance of your "Comment" the Zionists and neocons don't have a patent on it?.

by Declan Farrell - IPSC Sun Jul 30, 2006 20:29

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The Lebanese army attempting to prevent the protest spiralling out of control.

by man in Laois Sun Jul 30, 2006 23:26 melvyn1 at iolfree dot ie

I truly wonder just how much difference there is between the Nazis who massacred the Jews and the Israeli war machine along with their weaponry suppliers that slaughter the Arab people ?

by John Gallagher - IPSC Mon Jul 31, 2006 01:07

is evidenced in the rigor mortis stiffened corpses of the butchered Qana civilians. What value truth, when the world, the morally anaesthetized western world ,only has deafened ears for Israeli & US lies?.

by irony Mon Jul 31, 2006 05:14

I'm sure that's why Lebanese kids join their army. "hey! we need someone to protect the UN office when our country gets invaded!"

(I'm referring to the photo up the page) so... If the Lebanese army are protecting the UN, and the UN are protecting the peace, and the US is protecting Israel and Iran just might be protecting the leader of Hezbollah in its embassy - why isn't anyone safe?

Do the kids not get guardian angels these days?

by redjade Mon Jul 31, 2006 07:54

weirder still, BBC World showed Hezbollah heads march in to the UN offices to stop the angry crowds from rioting.

and ya know what? the crowds stopped rioting.

the Lebanese Army saves the UN from angry crowds
Hezbollah saves the Lebanese Army & the UN from angry crowds.

that little incident probably says more of how this war will end than any other so far.

by pfft Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:12

truly wonder just how much difference there is between the Nazis who massacred the Jews and the Israeli war machine along with their weaponry suppliers that slaughter the Arab people ?

About 6 million differences

by - Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:17

at this link
http://lebanonupdates.blogspot.com/

in addition "Mapping of Israeli assault: July 12-28
http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2006/07/4887.shtml

[ "The Maps of Israeli Assault on Lebanon are developed by a group of activists to demonstrate the reality of the Israeli assault on Lebanon. An act of collective punishment that is overreaching and unequivocal, and opposite to Prime Minister's Ehud Olmert claim that Israel is "not fighting the Lebanese government or the Lebanese people".

The map is our attempt at understanding the cumulative impact of such an attack on our lives as citizens and on the hundreds of thousands being killed or displaced daily. The figures and numbers on the map speak for themselves. As you look at the map, we urge you to remember that these dark dots you see, are villages and towns where thousands of civilians reside, the majority of which are now numbers in a long list of dead and displaced.

PDF version of this image that allows you to zoom-in and view details. (Right-click and select "save as" to prevent the PDF from opening in your web browser, as it may slow down your computer):
http://maps.samidoun.org/Lebanon_Map12-28.pdf
Use xpdf, gv, ... to view.

higher resolution JPEG image:
http://maps.samidoun.org/Lebanon_Map_July12-28.jpg

"We encourage you to distribute and republish the map."

by --- Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:11

And how will it end, if I may ask, Redjade?

by Bryan Mon Jul 31, 2006 16:18

Maybe if the Israeli puppets pulled out of Lebanon, this would stop. Israel has inflamed the situation even more with its military tactic, thought that was obvious.

by Hajj Amin Al Husseini Mon Jul 31, 2006 16:31

"I truly wonder just how much difference there is between the Nazis who massacred the Jews ..."

Not much difference between the nazis that were slaughtering the Jews druing the last century and those who are trying to do the same this century.
Israel is facing the same enemy, except this time around, the Jews can fight back, and the "peace" activists hate that fact...it just isn't as much fun killing jews these days.
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com

How do you say "Sieg Heil" in Arabic?

by Fred F Mon Jul 31, 2006 16:46

Yes, well done to Israel for defending itself against those 37 children. The world applauds.

by Fred Johnston Mon Jul 31, 2006 19:06

Think of it. Israeli military men standing in front of a tribunal at the Hague accused of war crimes. For Cana - and not only Cana, God knows - there should be more than a few. This nation, founded on Arab blood, seems to need more to nourish itself. It can no longer go before the world as a victim, even when urged on by the insane policies of the Bush Administration in pursuance by proxy of US aims in the Middle East. Israel is shamed forever in the eyes of the world as the single most aggressive country in the world, the killer of children, literally, by the dozens; and Tony Blair and George Bush could have prevented it, had they demanded a cease-fire before yesterday as most of the world urged them to. Shame too on those who put forward the notion to the newspaper 'Al Ha'aretz' that the deaths of the innocent Cana children were caused by the delayed explosion of concealed weapons in the houses that were bombed! Is no lie sufficiently disgraceful when covering up a war crime? But perhaps it is possible, when desperate, to lie to onself. George W. Bush, not being a particularly Christian man in any sense that Christ might understand the term, will not order Israel to hand over those responsible for Cana. Europe should find the courage to ask for their arrest and trial.

by Justin Morahan - Peace People Mon Jul 31, 2006 19:45

In the wake of these latest atrocities in Lebanon, a group of brave Israelis organised and marched in protest in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa yesterday

These courageous people - mainly women - were cursed by many of the 90% who still "support the war".

They can surely be called the Righteous Among the Jews, corresponding to the title "Righteous Among the Nations" based in the Noahide Laws and later bestowed by the State of Israel on those "Gentiles" who supported, defended, rescued or sheltered Jews in their own hour of need in the Holocaust.

These peace activists will not get medals, certificates, citizenship or money - only the everlasting honour, respect, love and gratitude of people who are helpless like us to stop the slaughter of innocents by the mighty power of Israel backed to the hilt by the more powerful United States. The cliche "speaking truth to power" comes alive in them.

These brave people need and deserve our support.

Contact: gsvirsky@netvision.net.il

by Paul R - . Mon Jul 31, 2006 20:58 tarbhmaith at imagine dot ie

pfft

6 million dead may be the Nazis legacy but Israel is doing its job by putting that many into the largest outside prison. Israel seems to believe they hold the high moral ground by not killing vis a vis the nazis.

It makes you wonder if they measure themselves to the nazis rather than more civilised peoples, how much self respect do they have.

Hajj Amin Al Husseini

Thankfully there are those who are willing fight such racist jewish facists.

Even more thankfully those who fight seem to be winning.

by David Manning - toirtap Mon Jul 31, 2006 23:39

I wrote to RTE's News Editor about their reporting:

Here's the address for anyone who wants to do the same: complaints@rte.ie, info@rte.ie

Dear Mr. Good,

Last nights 9 O'clock News had several special reports covering the latest civilian slaughter in Qana. Scenes of children's bodies being removed from the broken building were interspersed with numerous opportunities for Israeli apologetics. In all cases they attempted to shift blame for the bombing onto Hizbullah, as if dropping bombs on a sovereign country is not a crime in itself.

continued...

http://toirtap.blogspot.com/2006/07/propaganda-101-repe....html

by John Mon Jul 31, 2006 23:43

Take a disspassionate look at this link

by Alois Brunner Tue Aug 01, 2006 01:02

Hurray for Hezbollywood

by Ron Tue Aug 01, 2006 01:13

I'm extreemly sorry about the childern and other citizens in Kafr Cana. No child should be a victim. But as for a crime, dropping bombs on sovereign country is not a crime. Not when the said "sovereign country" allows a militant group to rule half of its territory. And by rule, I mean rull. The Hizballa is the 2nd employer in Lebanon. It deals with anything there, from schools to hospitals. They recruit kids at the age of 12 and train them ever since. Now. this "sovereign country" allows the said militant to shoot missiles repeatedly at other sovereign country. Not a crime? And to enter a sovereign country and attack its soldiers. Not an act of war?
Now, its really nice that Nasralla said they aim at soldiers and military targets only. Actually, by missiles and rocketts they have managed to injure 2 soldiers, who happend to be at home. All others were civilians. Tens died and hunderds injured. Civillians all. The Hizballa happened to hit twice hospitals. Not a total war crime? The IDF strike from the air and mistakes happen. Sad, but this is war for you. At least the IDF tries to hit Hizballa only, and hit civilians too. Hizballa target civillians only.
Worse of all, Hizballa throws missiles from civillian vilages. From civillian houses. . From civillian appartments. IDF has a movie, showing missiles launched from Kafr Cana. The launcher launch once, twice, three and four time, and than drives happily to some house basement! Not a total war crime?

Let me tell you a story.
There used to be a 7.5 years old boy, named Omer Pesachov. He and his parents lived in Naharia, which is a town near the sea, several KMs from the border. After the Hizballa started launching missiles, the family went to Grandma and Grandpa, who live in Meron, which is in the middle of the Galilee mountains, much farer. A day afterward a missile hit the Grandparents house. Omer died. So did the Grandma. His sister Roni, aged 11, injured seriously.
This is the boy. The text you won't be able to read. The picture you'll be able to see.
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtSR.jhtml?ite...ram=Y

by blaise Tue Aug 01, 2006 05:17

ronnie - old boy - you are backing a giant terrorist thug who has humiliated and tortured Arabs and Muslims for years now with their hatred so the Lebanese resistance - Hizbullah - most certainly reserves the right to reign down crude bombs on your pitiful population. If you were in their shoes - you would do the same. Get real, man. Israel and the United States are the real terrorists and nobody with half a brain buys that bullshit about the 'War on Terror'. Look in the mirror and you will face your war on terror.

by Ron Tue Aug 01, 2006 07:58

In Israel, before it was established, there were 3 underground. Right after the independance declaration, all 3 of them, with or without will, joined under the IDF. More than that - the main party dismantled its own military branch - the PALMACH.
What reason has the so called "resistance" to exist 6 years after Israel withdrawed from Lebanon? Resistance against what, exactly?

by David Manning - toirtap @ blogger Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:12

How many Palestinians hand Lebanese have died in the last month? How many were children? Will they get justice? Where is their retribution?

I didn't say Hizbullah don't attack civilians. I said Israel should be held accountable for their disproportionate response.

And there is still dispute over where the soldier were captured.

by Ron Tue Aug 01, 2006 14:00

Since when how many people died is the measurement if a war is just or not?
US and UK bombed Germany and killed millions of german civillians, making entire cities into dust and stones. Was their war unjust?
Hizballa attacked IDF soldiers on Israeli soil. Hizballa fire rockets and missiles over 1/3 of Israel, and threaten that he has half of Israel within reach. They use globules inside their Katiushas, to enlarge the damage, which is forbidden according to Geneva convention.
No country in the world would remain silente after such acts. Nor Ireland.
Israel has called for south Lebanon citizens to move out: by massages in the Israeli-Arabic radio. By dropping pamphletes from planes. By calling for their houses. Hizballa keeps launching from villages and civillian buildings, hiding inside them, storing there shells. Qana events, as sad it may be, and belive me I'm extreemly sorry over death of innocent kids, MAY HAPPEN. It's a bloody war.

Really nice that they call themselves "resistance". Not to compare, but imagine that the french resistance would exist for years after WW2, as an army of itself, inside france, and they would launch attacks on Germany, because "we still remember what happend before".

by David Manning - toirtap @ blogger Tue Aug 01, 2006 15:08

Firstly, as I said before, the Israeli soldiers are reported to have been captured on Lebanese soil not as you contend. Secondly, Israel were conducting cross border operations prior to this. Thridly, Israel has been planning this operation for over a year now.

Israel uses depleted uranium weapons, it is alleged they have used phosphrous bombs. Some of the injuries caused, have reportedly not been seen before.

Human Rights Watch accuse Israel of indiscriminate targeting. This is backed up by official statements, that everyone is a legitimate target given, as you say, they have had a chance to leave.

Yet Israel has been bombing infrasctructure and even fleeing families. ISrael has no right to order people to leave. They are creating refugees, in the knowledge that the necessary aid is not being delivered to them.

This is not a legitimate war and it is not self defense. Hizbullah rocket attacks in the last month are in response to Israel bombing. The Israelis escalated the situation not the other way round. They have consistantly held prisoners illegally and are conducting violent operations in Palestine routinely.

Have you seen this:

"In the past week nearly 5,000 members of the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) have downloaded special “megaphone” software that alerts them to anti-Israeli chatrooms or internet polls to enable them to post contrary viewpoints. A student team in Jerusalem combs the web in a host of different languages to flag the sites so that those who have signed up can influence an opinion survey or the course of a debate. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2289232,0....html

by man in Laois Wed Aug 02, 2006 15:53

Regardless of whether the statement beneath is true or not it can be viewed in two ways.

1. That it is a devious scare tactic to frighten off any valid criticism of Israel and so reduce public opinion and any damaging debate.

2. That it is an idiots dream!
Because all the while Israel is showing the world that it cares not one iota for public opinion or Human Rights .

" ... student team in Jerusalem combs the web in a host of different languages to flag the sites so that those who have signed up can influence an opinion survey or the course of a debate. "

We, the ordinary people on the street can make our voices heard by writing on here, contacting our TD's & MEP's and also take action via our shopping by careful selection of what we buy.

by Ron Wed Aug 02, 2006 17:52

Yea, I know.
It's fine. I've been on this site since 2003, not as part of any megaphone program.

by Liam From Lurgan Wed Aug 02, 2006 17:52

Why is the Israeli Army referred to as the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)? It has already invaded all its many neighbours at least once. Should it not more correctly be referred to as the Israeli Attack Force?

by ZioNasty Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:15

"Not when the said "sovereign country" allows a militant group to rule half of its territory."

Israel was the de-facto ruler of South Lebanon from 1982-2000. They even set up, trained , directed and sponsored their own racist Christian militia to do their dirty work for them, including torture abductions and murder, ie they allowed a militant group (theirs) to rule half the country!

by Michel Hassoun Fri Aug 18, 2006 00:50

The South Lebanese Army under "Greek Catholic "Major Saad Haddad, with his "Druze Muslim", & 'Maronite Christian" officers & men, was racist?

On What Planet...
it was complete cross section of our Lebanese society without the Phalange elements. The Gemayels wanted him Hanged, yet his small army did more for Lebanese Honour & Soveignity then the Gemayels, Frangieh's , Chamoun's,et al. He took on the PLO, & PFLP. When UNIFIL PROVED unable to Curtail PLO fighters roaming My country abusing MY countrymen & women.
It was Major Haddad who fought them. PLO attacked My beautifull Damour in January 1976 murdering almost 40,000 of My Neighbors, were was your outrage then?

by Arthur Fri Aug 18, 2006 00:55

"Israel was the de-facto ruler of South Lebanon from 1982-2000."

You forget (or choose not to remember) what the PLO did to Lebanon and the Christian Lebanese. Also the 30 year Syrian occupation is somehow forgotten. ( You know the National Socialists next door).

Lebanon was once a Christian majority nation. The Moslems have taken care of that.

by oh noes Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:29

PLO attacked My beautifull Damour in January 1976 murdering almost 40,000 of My Neighbors, were was your outrage then?

Oh Noesss, dont mention the bad stuff the PLO did on here, it will be deleted!!

If they did it in Israel it would have been classed as resistance, but as they did it in Lebanon it showed their true colours nicely(as they did in Jordan before that)

as far as the syrians go, the amount of lebonese blood they took is astonishing, a lot to boost what is the current organisation called hiz-bull-ahhh

by yessir - pot calling kettle black Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:04

if killing 29 in qana(via an airstrike) is a slaughter....

what is killing 40,000 (with bullets and knifes) called?

by Caobhin Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:46

The real number of victims in Damour 20 January 1976 was 600 not 40,000. The massacre was in retailiation for the Phalangist massacre of 1,000 civilians in Karantina so where was your own outrage then you hypocrites?

by know your facts Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:05

they are talking about the TOTAL of the PLO destruction in lebanon alone

Arafat and the PLO plunged
Lebanon into "massacres, rape, mutilation, rampages
of looting and killings. Out of a population of
3.2 million, some 40,000 or more people had been
killed, 100,000 wounded, 5,000 permanently
maimed(the maiming was particularily savage)

damour was particularily brutal as the 600 were mutilated --the men had their genitalia cut off and stuffed in their mouths, the women raped then killed, other areas kids had their fingers cut off so they would never fire a gun

face facts the PLO in lebanon revealed their true colours, just as they did in Jordan earlier

by omg Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:10

dont forget the fact that the PLO sparked the lebanese civil war also which claimed 150,000 lives

like hizbullah they created a state within a state

by full info Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:33

follow the link to see the PLO in their full light

by Caobhin Fri Aug 18, 2006 14:59

The scary thing is you probably believe you're objective - that is if you know the meaning of the word.

Everyone has to start learning sometime - I attach a link for a suggested place for you to start.

by omg Fri Aug 18, 2006 15:37

Resort to insults and name calling, it always is a dignified way out

so i repeat:

if killing 29 in qana(via an airstrike) is a slaughter....

what is killing 40,000 (with bullets and knifes) called?