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Sources of good info on Russian-Georgian conflict

category international | anti-war / imperialism | opinion/analysis author Saturday August 09, 2008 00:49author by FactSeeker Report this post to the editors

If only they had a local indy site!

Amidst the fog of war, and lack of media on the ground, it's anybody's guess as to what is actually going on there at the minute. It is claimed that Russian aircraft attacked military and other targets in Georgia (Russia denies any such attacks happened, and Georgia claims to have shot down some of the aircraft) and a large number of Russian tanks has crossed the border. Each side claims the other fired the first shot.

The usual fog of war has arisen, but it seems there's defintely some deception going on.
Georgia claims to have shot down Russian combat aircraft attacking Georgia, - which Russia deny were there - and the media reports that the Georgian military drove into South Ossetia
(while the Georgians say they were demanding an end to the Russian attacks)
and the Russians happened to have amassed a column of tanks fuelled up and ready to roll in. - Meanwhile, most people are watching the Olympics.

The Russian Foreign Minister is crying crocodile tears for civilians and the trouble that relief organisations have helping people during conflicts.
Now, the president of Georgia is saying he will agree to immediate ceasefire, mediation and observer peacekeepers (not Russian military, presumably).

Anybody got any good analysis of what's going on there. I knew that the Georgians were being rather stubborn about granting independence but they were talking about an independent republic much like two other areas already have. They also claim that the people who claim to be running an independent South Ossetia, are Russian agents, installed by the Kremlin.

If only they had in indymedia in that neck of the woods! The closest one seems to be Armenia (http://armenia.indymedia.org/ ), which won't load for me at the minute.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   The roots of this conflict     Jim    Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:37 
   Georgia to withdraw 2,000 troops from Iraq     redjade    Sat Aug 09, 2008 13:10 
   Useful compilation of sources of info here     not 1 of    Sat Aug 09, 2008 15:52 
   Another set of information links     not 1 of    Sat Aug 09, 2008 16:18 
   Sorting out disinformation & awaiting local comments.     satsuma    Sat Aug 09, 2008 17:56 
   Strategic interest?     qui bono    Sat Aug 09, 2008 22:01 
   Postman Patel     Hugh Briss    Sat Aug 09, 2008 22:35 
   ceasefire pleas by Georgia.     done & dusted    Sun Aug 10, 2008 17:13 
   USA accuses Russia of wanting to depose Georgian Government.     -    Sun Aug 10, 2008 21:37 
 10   more shtuff     jm    Sun Aug 10, 2008 22:59 
 11   more     pat c    Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:50 
 12   Military conflict between Russia and Georgia escalates‏     pat c    Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:58 
 13   Long time planned. Public in the dark.     clearasmud    Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:00 
 14   wars in the pipeline...     oiladdict    Mon Aug 11, 2008 14:38 
 15   sometimes, it's easier to draw it than write about it.     Jaque De Ladd    Mon Aug 11, 2008 14:49 
 16   pointer : intelligent discussion     jm    Mon Aug 11, 2008 15:13 
 17   The Daily Mail started the "pipeline" war thing yesterday. It's Georgian propaganda.     Ivan    Mon Aug 11, 2008 15:27 
 18   How impartial is the "World Socialsit" site?     Sceptic    Mon Aug 11, 2008 16:15 
 19   oil and minorities.     O I C    Mon Aug 11, 2008 17:32 
 20   Georgia/Russia conflict brings disaster for working people of region     CWI    Mon Aug 11, 2008 17:45 
 21   Russia has taken largest Georgian military base. Ireland speaks!     ivan    Mon Aug 11, 2008 18:53 
 22   Pre-planned action.     i-bawl    Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:10 
 23   Russia has ceased operations.     ivan    Tue Aug 12, 2008 15:20 
 24   the spin on peace begins as Sarko talks to Moscow & Georgia still holds hope of US help.     ivan    Tue Aug 12, 2008 21:57 
 25   a lose-lose situation...     redjade    Wed Aug 13, 2008 01:00 
 26   "back to the old world order" is neither win-win nor lose-lose - just the stabilty of stalemate.     ivan    Wed Aug 13, 2008 19:26 
 27   keep an eye on Azerbaijan ...     Baku Boyo    Wed Aug 13, 2008 19:35 
 28   if it was about Russian aggression (which it aint) then Azerbaijan is different.     ivan    Wed Aug 13, 2008 20:47 
 29   whole lot of thinking to do now...     Baku Boy    Wed Aug 13, 2008 22:46 
 30   Like a game of Risk....     redjade    Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:32 
 31   follow up on the cyber attacks -     ivan    Thu Aug 14, 2008 16:33 
 32   Yeah .. . . right     Hugh Briss    Thu Aug 14, 2008 17:58 


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