U.S Homeland Security directs Irish airlines to comply with new anti-terror law.

by Sore Nipples Sat Aug 12, 2006 20:16

Far from being the most vulnerable members of society, new mothers tend to be chemically 'changed'.
Movement and running -wise they are most definitely
more vulnerable.

But if you happen to be breast-feeding , (on demand) :

Two/three hour sittings.(or more)
6/7 times a day= a lot of time feeding
No sleep.
Exhaustion

Now bottles can be expressed breast milk, which means a gurgly machine
and very sore nipples, or they can be formula (the type the multi-nationals
foist on the poor)
In this case you have a more regular feeding schedule, less front-load,
less changing of milky-pads, leakage on your front ,and altogether very
convienent for the 9-5 scheduler, (with the wage slave nanny)

So, in an interesting case of post-partruition psychosis, go then to the airport
where someone tells you to drink of the bottle- vulnerable is not the
first feeling that comes to mind....

Or you can be breast-feeding your beautiful baby in the Lebanon and someone
kills you both , so the woman at the airport can go to Florida with the help and
forget that the war is being carried out so that she can do this.

Some women who traumatically lose their infants continue to produce the milk
but there is no-one to take it.In the colonies they were 'wet nurses', or the
baby who needs that milk has it stolen because she/he is a rape-child.

All in all the image of forcing the mother to drink the milk is quite potent.

by Seán Ryan Sat Aug 12, 2006 17:12

What purpose does forcing a mother to drink from her baby's bottle serve?

If one were going to drug or poison passangers or the crew or everyone, then one would be better off not using a quick acting substance, to ensure that as many as possible received a dose. I presume the authorities don't wait around for a few hours to see if the young mother drops dead.

However, by forcing one of the most vunerable members of society and indeed a member that we as a group feel most instinctively inclined to protect, to kneel before her betters - we are shown in a less than subtle manner, that the 'machine' that is the system, is more important than the most sacred. And we teach children their value in comparison to The State.

Baa!

by Distinctly Underwhelmed Fri Aug 11, 2006 21:50

The Israeli government , tonight announced plans to expand the groud offensive
in the Lebanon- it will now be the '30' day war.

wonder if the UK/US nexus are repeating their old habits:

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0129-03.htm

and

www.guardian.co.uk/observor/iraq/story/0,2763,1148623,00.html-45k

Given that the UN has aceeded to the money-pressure of the U.S allied states.

by Righteous Pragmatist Fri Aug 11, 2006 18:39

I bet next time they will be telling us that terrorists plan to simultaneously hijack civilian airliners and crash them into the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Yeah Right!

I bet the Israelis are going to claim Hezbollah have thousands of rockets and are going to bombard northern Israeli towns and the city of Haifa with hundreds of rockets everyday. Yeah Right!

I bet the Russians are going to claim that Chechens plan to take over a crowded Moscow theatre, a school in Beslan or blow up two airliners simultaneosly in flight. Yeah Right!

I bet the Spanish government is going to voted out of office by the terrified population of Spain following four bombs on Madrid trains that kill 200 people. Yeah Right!

Ditto the UK government are going to tell us that 50 people could be killed by simultaneous bombings on the Tube. Yeah Right!

Of course we all know that the REAL terrorists are Bush and Blair and Global Capitalism!

by Underwhelmed Fri Aug 11, 2006 17:40

One of the 'terrorists' was 17. People were laughing at the Sky coverage last night
in the shops and Tony Bliar has still not appeared in England to answer questions
about his swimsuit, his dicky ticker (remember that?) or his mid-east 'strategy'.

War ballast continues including the death of David Kelly and Margaret Hassan.
and countless, unanamed victims of our foreign policy.

The Irish Banks btw: turned off their telly coverage when Qana was hit, but wall to wall
sky coverage (money made in the dissemination of propaganda , and 'Supermen',
lost when children are massacred).= complicity

by PaddyK Fri Aug 11, 2006 14:57

Dear Britain,

Thanks for picking the perfect moment in your "on-going investigation" into the activities of muslim dissidents to create a huge hullaballoo about spring water and breast milk.
AS you will know, we are past the thousand mark in our mass slaughter operation in Lebanon and even we were finding it hard to keep our killers of our own TVs, here. But thanks to you now we have a great excuse to pull out every crusty piece of Al-Qaeda footage in the storeroom and talk shite about Islamo facists for at least a week.

Your Bloody Friend

Israel.

PS. Hope you remembered to pick the least busy time to pull the stunt like we recommended.

Love. XX

by anti-war anti-terrorist Fri Aug 11, 2006 14:31

"Maybe there were a bunch of nutters trying to blow up planes this time, or maybe they were just Walter Mittys with big mouths, but I'd advise waiting to see what solid, concrete evidence the State comes up with before taking it at its word."

Agreed, but it seems many are willing to assume the plot to be exaggerated and invent conspiracy theories about how this is a ploy to detract attention from Lebanon/Iraq or cow people into submission to their govnt by fear when in reality it's the directionless, pathetic attempt by authority to deal with uncertainty and fear of not to be seen to be doing something.

by Gerry - Pesky rodents Fri Aug 11, 2006 13:40

As the old saying goes, it's an ill wind that blows nobody any good. If passengers are barred from taking liquids onto flights, then the airlines will make a stash from flogging them over-priced mineral water and pop, not to mention crap sarnies as in the current 'crisis' you can't take anything other than flight docs on board, so no packed lunches. Michael O'Leary must be rubbing his hands in glee.

Funny, though, after the capture of the "shoe bomber" I don't remember the UK State demanding that people get onto planes in their socks...

"this is the ONLY mention today of the attempt to blow up several planes over the Atlantic by crazed, disenchanted British moslems!

Yes, it might seem a bit heavy.... but would you rather see that woman and baby die because the plot succeeded?"

Now that's funny! As in funny ha-ha. What sort of evidence is there that this "plot" was under way and that there was a real threat to kill thousands of people? Hmm, let's see - the word of the cops and the spooks. Now are they reliable sources, or what? I do seem to remember all sorts of lurid stories appearing in the media after the Forest Gate thing, when that Moslem guy was shot in his own home at 4am (now what sort of State does *that* remind you of?), about sinister plots and whatnot. And guess what? Despite hundreds of cops trashing the house and inspecting every last bit of dust, despite holding the brothers for two weeks solid in the cop shop without any charges, they couldn't pin a damn thing on them, and the whole "plot" and the "intelligence" (posh word for a nark's tip-off) turned out to be complete bollox.

Maybe there were a bunch of nutters trying to blow up planes this time, or maybe they were just Walter Mittys with big mouths, but I'd advise waiting to see what solid, concrete evidence the State comes up with before taking it at its word.

by Andrew McGrath Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:06

In fact this whole incredible, hysterical terrorist thingy sounds amazingly like the "plot to blow up the Sears Tower" which was so sensationally uncovered by the truth-seeking media, and just as sensationally dropped as soon as the nonsense couldn't be upheld. But the effect is achieved: invisible yet everywhere-present evil terrorists "who hate 'our' way of life", and who are produced like rabbits out of a hat whenever some particularly important G8 business needs to be pressed ahead with. In this case, eyes must be averted from the ongoing campaign by the Israeli proxy force to clear aside the Lebanese people.

Israel drops leaflets telling people to get out of their own country, then bombs the people while they flee. And the Irish Government sits back with a gobshite Bertie grin on its face, saying it doesn't really understand what this is all about. And State shills twist themselves inside out to justify internationally-sponsored (and media-approved) state violence on a massive scale; and that includes unthinking repetition of every claim by the very people who have lied through their teeth about everything to justify their vicious agenda.

by Sniffer. Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:18

So, now it's Pakistanis who uncovered this plot... the PAKISTANI INTELLIGENCE SERVICES.... the same corrupt lot who helped set up the Taliban... and now conveniently they have produced a confession, in great detail (perfect for the SUN and Daily Mail graphic artists) to implicate some men in Britain, and have a big high profile media arrest giving all the names of the men and 'what they planned to do'...
great for media coverage, and raising the terror alert, but think about it, if this was a real threat, the cops wouldn't risk the possibility of prejudicing the trial by realising the information.

This is no different from the other fake terror threats. it originated in government and security circles... The media have been falling overthemselves to come up with screaming headlines and graphics, all on the word of 'security sources' and not a shred of corroberation.

They're just pushing our buttons.

by Less Gob-smacked Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:28

The priority was extremely low-level given the wheeling out of the Bold Mary Coughlan
on the Issue of 'International Terror', she will be photographed in her wellies somewhere soon
for the benefit of all those who admire her negotiation propensities in the EU-
(make Ireland a puppet of capitalisation, deny the farmers a way of life)

In fact they are largely interchangeable , given that they don't really do anything
and largely don't give a fuck (unless events take over).

The concept of 'leadership" is an outmoded idealism given that they are
fiddlers and have over nine years established and manitained a strong
crony lobby, a contempt for community and a means of enriching a white
elite.

Observe the absences of Bertie Ahern : Sex -Law debate, 'Terror alerts', Condemnation of
War,

and look where he goes.....

Military Parades.
Charles Haughey's funeral.
Defending Frank fahy in the Dail (alleged property corruption)
Schmoozing at the races.
The Somme Commerorations.

Politics is about perception (someone told me) and Bertie wants to be perceived
as unconcerned with issues. He is making him-self an illusory place on the
world stage as a Statesman, a military leader.
His friend Tony is still on holiday in the Carribean.

by fergal Thu Aug 10, 2006 23:39 fergal at esatclear dot ie

This kind of attack has already been carried out once before in China in 2002 (though not as an act of terrorism). The fact that we were not secured against this until today is just an indication of how little real security matter. Perceived security is all that matters, especially if real security is going to hurt profits.

More links and ranting in

http://wargle.blogspot.com/2006/08/perfectly-imaginable....html

by number 6 - legalize freedom campaign Thu Aug 10, 2006 21:47

Ah yes .The problem-reaction-solution method never ceases to work.The triangle of control and deceit. To erode all our freedoms away.
This orchistrated age old method always works. The Romans used it too.

Are you all ready to be micro-chipped for a 'safer' World?
The micro-chip has been implanted in many High profile People just in case of kidnapping. Funny, there has not been much of that lately, I wonder why. Well, Tony O'Reilly has one in his belly button.
Fake terror - the road to dictatorship , is a very interesting Article published on www.prisonplanet.com.

The precurser to the Human Bio-Chip implant is that all the Dollar and Euro Notes are chipped and can be tracked by rfid technology as are Passports. But the excuse is that they can be lost , stolen or Doctored.
so the only solution???? Humans are next. Babies have been chipped at birth without the Parents being notified. It smells of Organ retention or something??, numeration at birth.
I am still waiting to die from bird flu....I never got vaccinated. The interesting thing is that these micro-chips have now been reduced to half the size of a grain of sand and are linked through the G.P.S System.

The Irish Media are just Prostitutes for their Masters.
They report, 'Muslims' carried out the terror attempts.
Imagine the Media saying, 'Christians' carried out ................whatever? Then it would seem bias.
How much the Media Mafia being paid to Brainwash the Population? But, this State controlled Chaos will be the excuse to implant all People under the guise of 'Security'.
To rid your Banknote of the micro chip implant , just stick in a micro wave and blow it to pieces. B.C.N.U.

by gobsmacked Thu Aug 10, 2006 21:12

The Minister for Agriculture is making statements on the issue.
Bush is accusing islamic 'fascists' and Al Quaeda.

36 hours ago 100 members of the British Labour Party demanded a re-call
of Parliament to debate Bliar's Mid-east 'strategy'

He is in the Carribean, sunning himself and the media is eating the portion
of crap that passes for distraction.

by KILL Thu Aug 10, 2006 18:33

On the other hand maybe it's not all that unprecedented at all. They've been at it for years slaughtering Palestinian children, women and men.

Err
The Palistinains have been doing a good job with the suicide bombers and blowing up planes and the rest of it themselves really

The Palistinians INVENTED taking planes and blowing them up

Al queda are cheap imitators on that score, they should give lessons to al queda on it...hmmmzzz maybe they have allready

by F.McKenzie Thu Aug 10, 2006 18:17

Isn't aviation fuel a liquid? What about all that liquid brake fluid and lubricating oils the plane uses?

It was sickening to listen to John Reid talking about how the UK authorities had acted promptly to prevent slaughter on an unprecedented scale. Well, Mr. Reid, slaughter on an unprecedented scale is going on right now in Lebanon, being perpetrated by your friends and allies the Israelis. On the other hand maybe it's not all that unprecedented at all. They've been at it for years slaughtering Palestinian children, women and men.

by Understandably Sceptical Thu Aug 10, 2006 17:58

I'm sorry reading all of that Orwell must have corrupted my mind. I see they've arrested twenty-one people and of course everyone so far detained in this 'war on terror' has been a terrorist. As were the Guilford four and Birmingham six back when we were the baddies. And Hezbollah said they have the prisoners because of course we can trust every statement released by the media that has proved so critical of the actions of the US and Israel so far and supportive of Muslims that obviously if there was any bias it would swing the other way rather than as a justification for their Imperialist actions. And the Gulags, ah of course Israel are just showing a legitimate concern for the welfare of their less developed neighbours. Cheers for that my head is hung in shame. How gullible I was.

by Gobsmacked - Justified Interference Thu Aug 10, 2006 17:12

Justifying interference in the electoral process of independent nation states such as Mexico,
Venezuela, Cuba or war-mongering beligerence in oil-producing states?

The 'desire' to create and sustain an Utopia in the U.S and it's colonies
by beligerent acts of sponsored war is a desire to sustain an out-moded
and failed way of life based on the dollar.

The U.S denies it's own people health-care and support(observe the devastation of
New Orleans in the wake of the Hurricane).

It is about money and creating satellite states sympathetic to US hegemony
and in the words of a cliche:

"Would you wake up and smell the Coffee".

Developing nations have a right to self governance. some might not like the
laws but creating capital markets on the basis of murder and genocide is probably
not a Utopian vision either.

(still waiting to see Bliar in his new swimming trunks-somewhere warm, doubtless)

by !! Thu Aug 10, 2006 16:46

Err the fact that they have fucking arrested 21 people
Err the fact that hezbollah announced they had the prisoners
Err the fact dictator hussein slaughtered far more than 200,000 of his own people in his Gulags more than justifies the guy being toppled, not to mention the fact that he invaded 2 of his arab/persian neighbours Kuwait and Iran

by Understandably sceptical Thu Aug 10, 2006 16:27

Who says there was a plan to blow up planes? The British police and intelligence services? The same people who shoot Brazilians in tube stations? Who were responsible for the orginal faulty intelligence that was used as a justification for the Iraq war (even if they retracted it long after the fact), who have brought tanks to Heathrow in the past because they spoke of a terrorist threat, the masters of cloak and dagger paranoia? Who says that the Israeli soldiers who had been brainwashed and conscripted by 'their' government were ever even kidnapped in the first place? Just like the WMD in Iraq they seem to have been forgotten about now that the war is powering ahead. Indeed Hitlers tactic to justify invading Poland was to dress Jewish prisoners up in German uniforms and shoot them near the Polish border so he could claim provocation from the poles. So there is a lack of support for the attack on Lebanon among the British population, then obviously a bomb scare was needed to make them fear Muslims a bit more.

by Gitmo Thu Aug 10, 2006 16:13

is the simple answer- no more than I would like to see the 10
day old baby dead that I saw on the cover of the Guardian this morning.

Simple fact is that this war is part of a beligerent US/UK
policy which is in the process of re-drawing the map of the
Middle-east. It is a failure. that mother and baby,
is no different to the ones victimised by a failed war and a failed world view.
which therefore would you choose?

it's not 'over there' , it is part of our foreign policy to support this war.

by anit-war anti-terrorist Thu Aug 10, 2006 16:06

this is the ONLY mention today of the attempt to blow up several planes over the Atlantic by crazed, disenchanted British moslems!

Yes, it might seem a bit heavy.... but would you rather see that woman and baby die because the plot succeeded?

by We shall be seeing Tony Bliar's new swimsuit - Regime Change. Thu Aug 10, 2006 15:40

Leaving New Labour safely in the hands of John Reid.

Meanwhile another group of young moslem men are probably en route to Gitmo
via Shannon Airport.

The 'Neutral' state of Ireland takes out a hanky when Bush sneezes.

by and... Thu Aug 10, 2006 15:09

http://www.shannonairport.com/facilities/usdeptofhomela...ndsec....

http://www.carrollpublishing.com

http://homelandsecurity.org

The Irish Government continues to comply with the U.S/U.K policy of
beligerence in the Middle-East. There has been no statement from the
Dept of the taoiseach or Foreign Affairs to condemn the war, nor a
statement confirming that in fact Homeland Security issued directions
to the Airport authorities of a 'neutral' country, which were immeadiately
complied with.